On January 23, 2006 08:11, Russ Kepler wrote: > On Monday 23 January 2006 07:55 am, Ron Hunter-Duvar wrote: > > On January 22, 2006 18:49, Aron Smith wrote: > > > On Sunday 22 January 2006 04:29 pm, JoeHill wrote: > > > > gettin bounces. have my suspicions. > > > > > > I've been getting the bounces but the message is going thru > > > Sympa Attack? > > > > I've been getting a bounce on every message I send too. Seems to be one > > address in particular causing the bounce (if I'm reading it right): > > > > "IMB Recipient 1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > And good old Sympa(lton) seems to be sending the bounce it receives from > > a list member back to me instead of handling it itself. It's funny > > really, since allegedly people were kicked off the list due to bounces, > > yet this address has been bouncing for two days and seems to still be > > there. Maybe this is the "fix". > > It's likely not the mailing list server that's misconfigured here but > instead the server at the bouncing site. All the mail that comes out from > Sympa is marked "Errors-To:" and a properly configured server will send the > error replies (such as bounces) to the address in that value. A badly > configured server will send the errors to the "Reply-To:" or, as it appears > in this case, the "From:" address. > > Send me the headers in one of the bounces and we'll see where it's coming > from. But in my experience sympa deals fairly well with not passing on > bounces to the whole list, and since not everyone is seeing the bounces I > believe that the bounces are being returned to the sender. > > BTW: If the bounces were getting back to the list and redistributed to the > list each bounce would be starting yet another bounce. This is called a > "mailstorm" and is interesting to watch from the outside but hell to deal > with from the inside, thus the flagging of list mail and bounce detection > done by servers.
No, I know it's not bouncing back to the list (and if you re-read my message, you'll see I never said that). But what's the point of sending the bounce back to me? (That's a rhetorical question.) I'm sending a message to the list. If an address on the list is not valid, I can't do anything about it, and I don't particularly care to know. The list server should deal with it, not send it back to me. I've had 5 bounces now over the last 3 days, and after this message, it'll be 6. Anyway, I'll forward you one of them privately for you to look at. If you can figure out what's wrong and convince someone at Mandriva to listen to you, I'm sure the whole list will be grateful. But as the old cliche goes, I'm not holding my breath. PS: Please don't take any of this as a personal attack. I know (now) that you're not any more responsible for this mess than anyone else, and that you're just trying to help. I also know how easily emails can be misinterpreted. I'm just frustrated with the list management, as are so many others. -- Ron ronhd at users dot sourceforge dot net Opinions expressed here are all mine. ____________________________________________________ Want to buy your Pack or Services from Mandriva? Go to http://store.mandriva.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrivaclub.com ____________________________________________________
