ET said:

the real question (to me) is how would a newbie ever find this list 
anymore?

can anyone point me to a link that you can follow from any Mand-ex start
or first page (like the one that comes up in a browser when you first
start the browser or mandriva.com or mandrivalinux.org(etc)) that would
link to a signup or other link leading you here? all I have found in the
past was a link saying 'you better' sign up for the mandrivaexpert paid
services.
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... I'm a very new newbie (on the list since last March)    ... listening 
in on this discussion, decided to join the Expert list to see what it looks 
like ... took me an hour and a half !!! ... absolutely no luck starting at 
mandriva, finally looked at some old emails, found the WIKI link, that did 
the trick ... but now I see what you guys have been talking about, Mandriva 
is totally unfriendly to unpayed-for lists !!!

 ... I have played around with SUSE and Kubuntu, still like Mandriva alot 
more, but mandriva is truly shooting themselves in the foot running you 
guys off like this ....

... Expert list is excellent though, lot of good stuff so far that I 
more-or-less understand ...

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