Michael Fothergill wrote:
> 
> Dear X people,

I'm not the best one to answer this (I'm no expert on RedHat or Gnome),
but until somebody else responds I can offer a few clues.
> 
> Is it the case that when you run startx in a standard Linux environment e.g.
> Red Hat 7.1 that gdm is fired up if you are running gnome?

You can't be "running" gnome unless X11 is already running.  I thought
that a normal RedHat installation would have automatically set up X11
and a graphical login that would start Gnome as soon as you logged in. 
Did you do something unusual in the installation?

> When I run xwindow as root everything workd fine,

What exactly do you mean by this?  Do you mean that you logged in as
root at a text-mode login prompt and ran startx and Gnome started up?

> but as a regular user I
> seem to run a proxy window manager and then I get a complaint from gnome
> that the window manager I am using or the version of X I have does not
> support gnome....

I don't understand what you mean here by "proxy window manager".  Could
this be TWM, the window manager that comes with the Sample
Implementation of X?

>  I tried to fire up the system by typiing in gdm at start
> up instead of startx but the system said "only root wants to run gdm".  I
> found gdm in /usr/bin and I changed the ownership from root ro the user
> hoping that I could run gdm directly but it made no difference....  How can
> I fix the problem?

GDM is Gnome's own "enhancement" of xdm, just as KDM is KDE's.  These
things put up a graphical Login prompt when X11 is running.  You type in
your account name and password and XDM/GDM/KDM steps aside and runs
xinit for you, which starts your window manager.  Not only are
XDM/GDM/KDM only run by root, they're not meant to be run from an
interactive command prompt, but automatically from init when the system
starts up.

Look back a few days in the list archives for what I wrote on xdm.

I don't know anything about RedHat 7.1's installation process, but if
you want the machine to be a graphical workstation you need to find the
trick to get GDM to run automatically at startup.  I think RedHat uses a
SysV style inittab mechanism; some RedHat guru please step in here with
the details.

Very important:  You need to put the ownership and all the permission
bits back the way they were, and read up on file ownership and
permissions.  On Unix systems, the chmod man page in section 2 is a good
place to start.  Again, some RedHat guru please step in.

The coolest GUI imaginable won't protect you from having to learn a few
fundamentals, like the significance of file ownership and permissions.

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