Sorry I had just read a couple of reviews 
<snip>
ATI�s Radeon 9000 core is strikingly similar to the R200 core (better known as the 
Radeon 8500),
with a few minor additions and some features cut out. The Radeon 9000, at a first 
glance, is what
the NV17 (better known as GeForce4 MX) should have been- a full fledged DX8.1 card for 
under $100
that will be able to handle most games out there today without a hiccup.
</snip>
Ref.http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=203&PageID=2

I still wonder wether trying to convince X it has to do with the 8500 might not help...
Lionel


--- Hende Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Monday 30 September 2002 08:28, you wrote:
> 
> not really. IMHO
> 
> > Is not the 9000 a spec. downsized version of the 8500?
> > Lionel
> >
> > --- Hende Roland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 28 September 2002 21:13, you wrote:
> > > > Only 2D support currently for the 8500
> > >
> > > and the 9000 supported in 2D?
> 
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