hi, merry christmas to you to. i'll try to explain this the best that i can. KDE doesn't start when i 'startx'. a gui with a few console windows and a window for a clock appears. i tried 'startkde' not knowing it was a command and KDE started (only while within the gui, not from the shell). so i start KDE from the gui, and every component of KDE (ie, the desktop, the taskbar, and programs i open like mozilla or a text editor) opens up in a new window of the main gui that opens when i 'startx'. it's like running KDE within another gui environment. seems very strange to me, and i know that it shouldn't happen because at school i use KDE and it loads up automatically on startup, or from the shell when i 'startx'. i can probably start a GNOME session at the same time (i haven't tried), but i want to get it so it's just a KDE session by itself, like the windows gui. the desktop in windows is the back most visible component. when i start KDE, the desktop can be minimized or killed. i hope i explained the situation well enough. i'm gonna send this to the newbie group too, just in case you don't know what's going on. but thanks again.






From: Ernie Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Chris Capaci" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Newbie]xserver sync rate problem
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2002 14:09:08 -0500

On Tuesday 24 December 2002 08:53 pm, a tiny voice in your head compelled you
to type:
> ok, thanks a lot. i really hope you don't mind answering all these
> questions. i'm starting to feel like i'm a pain :) anyway, answer only if
> you want to. i startx, and the frequencies are fine now. i'm using it right
> now. i just started kde desktop, but it's not running how i remember it
> running. it's like every window is a different component...the x server is
> the main program running and everything, the taskbar (sorry for my windows
> terminology, but i don't know what it's called in kde) is a different
> window than the kde desktop, and when i click on the kde desktop it hides
> the taskbar...and when i open a program, and then go back to the desktop,
> the whole desktop comes to the front. i use kde at school and it works very
> similarly to the gui of windows. is there anyway to fix this? thanks a lot.
>
> chris


Chris,
I don't mind at all, I'm glad to help. Sorry that Christmas has delayed my
answer. I'm afraid that I'm not going to be much help with this one, but I'll
give you a couple of things to check. First, does the taskbar reappear when
you move the cursor to the bottom of the screen? If so, you have "auto hide
enabled. To disable that right click on an empty spot on the taskbar and
select "preferences-->"hiding" and uncheck the automatic hiding button.
If the taskbar is not set to auto hide, there is the possibility that you are
running a lower resolution than the max and you are seeing a virtual desktop.
Does the desktop seem to move when you move the cursor to the sides or top or
bottom of the screen? If so, try the key combination "control+alt+ plus or
minus (on the number pad with numbers lock enabled) this will cycle through
the working resolutions. This may enable you to see the whole desktop at
once. If you see no change, or it seems to try to change resolutions, try
removing the resolution that isn't working from the XF86Config-4 file.
Lastly, if none of that solves the problem, log on as root andcreate another
user, if you haven't done that already. Log on as that user and see if the X
session behaves normally if so, get back to me and I'll explain the next
step.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

--
Regards, Ernie
100% Microsoft and Intel free

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