Ed Again thanks - if it's good enough for you it's good enough for me - I'll stick to traffic_calming=chicane even on footways - and I'll remember to keep calm each time I wriggle through one (should there be a further tag maxwaist= ... also for some kissing-gates - I don't think I'm obese (yet!) but sometimes have to remove a backpack to get through - (;>) Mike Harris
_____ From: Ed Loach [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 27 January 2009 09:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [OSM-newbies] Chicane - or not? There has been some discussion as to the use of barrier vs traffic_calming when related to chicane. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Approved_features/barriers#Footway_Chicane.2Fzig-zag_barriers http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Approved_features/barriers#Final_RFC I tend to use traffic_calming=chicane because of the argument that they slow you down rather than block you (though you may be able to climb over (or open) barriers such as stiles or gates). Similarly you may be able to lift a bicycle over a chicane and pass by foot (or in some cases, push the bicycle underneath while walking around it) and in these cases they are still traffic_calming. Ed From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Harris Sent: 27 January 2009 08:55 To: [email protected] Subject: [OSM-newbies] Chicane - or not? Hi Another little tagging puzzle. I quite often encounter a barrier on footpaths that is intended to allow access on foot but make it difficult for cyclists - either to slow them down at a hazard or actually to block access. It is essentially a 'chicane' formed by overlapping closely parallel fences or walls that requires four successive 90 degree turns to negotiate (left-right-right-left or right-left-left-right). I would tend to tag this as barrier=chicane but don't want to create a new tag unnecessarily - and there is already a traffic_calming=chicane tag. Although 'traffic calming' sounds a little strange for pedestrians (we're a placid lot!) is this the better tag? Thoughts? Mike Harris
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