On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Kjeldgaard Morten <[email protected]> wrote:
> You are getting carried far out along a tangent here. My remarks were > not meant to be universally applicable to everything in- and outside > OSM; doing so can make anything meaningless. My remarks are addressing > the specific discussion about tunnels vs. culverts. A culvert is a type of tunnel... a motorway is a type of road. We are talking about sub-classifications here. I don't see where this is outside of the scope of the concept of tagging ways, let alone outside the scope of the OSM project. We seem to do fairly well describing the road network with a limited subset of tags, and the road network is something that is very visible to those of us who are not "roadway experts". Holes in the ground are very much less observable, and therefore much harder for those of us who are not "tunnel and underground infrastructure" experts to identify. Without being one of those experts, it would be difficult to know the proper tags to use. (Note, I am not attempting to mock anyone using these titles) >> You can >> coach and mentor those who are contributing to enhance their skills, >> and increase the value of the work they bring to the project, and you >> can politely ask those who damage or destroy information to leave. > > I agree completely. However, if those volunteers just do wtf they want > regardless of what the community says, it's not participation. Which is what I said above, even given that, it's difficult to stop a vandal. However, someone adding roadways to the OSM database, but not including something like a surfacetype tag is not a vandal. Even if they tag the way as primary when it should be secondary, that is not vandalism. > The fact that OSM can attrackt experts, professionals and researchers > is quite impressive; we should be proud of that and pay respect when > offered advice. Indeed, but we can not expect every OSM contributor to be an expert on every feature included in OSM. We leverage the knowledge level and skill set of every contributor, from a dummy like me right up to experts on every facet of their chosen field. If the OSM community decides that the culvert tag is appropriate, we simply send a bot out looking for all streams going through tunnels. Perhaps Andy could give us a quick education on what constitutes a tunnel. James VE6SRV _______________________________________________ newbies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies
