On Mar 24, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Phil Monger wrote: > Steve - "The OS gets its money from local councils and other agencies" > > No, no they don't. That's exactly what I'm referring to. They haven't done > this in YEARS since they were mandated to be an independently funded > organisation. Do a little research.
I did. I did a FOIA request of my local and borough council and found out how much money they spend on the OS. You can find it on the wiki. > The OS are a 'trading fund' and are required to cover *all* their costs by > selling product AND have to give a certain amount of this *to the taxpayer* > to cover the administration of them (as they are a civilian executive agency). > > Just glance at the UK budget and you will see there are *no fund* allocated > to Ordnance Survey. you're just prevaricating, sorry. > > Phil > > On 24 March 2010 17:22, SteveC <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Mar 23, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Phil Monger wrote: > > > Steve Doerr - I don't think I understand your point? > > > > As had already been pointed out the OS are not tax funded. They act like > > any other company within the UK making and selling a product. They have > > done so for 11 years. > > > > The whole campaign has been driven ahead by the public's anger over having > > to "pay for the mapping my taxes produced" - when in fact no such situation > > exists. > > > > But hey, leading on the ignorance is politics, right? > > > The OS gets its money from local councils and other agencies, who get their > money from the UK taxpayer. Just saying that because it's indirect that it's > not really tax money is short sighted, and playing along with the OS's own > propaganda. > > > > On 21 March 2010 19:56, Steve Doerr <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 20/03/2010 13:34, Mike Harris wrote: > > > > > It might be worth bearing in mind that - thanks in part from the > > > pressures exerted by excellent projects such as OSM - the UK government > > > and the OS are in the process of considerably liberalising their > > > position on what may and what may not be done by taxpayers (who have > > > already funded both the OS and the Highway Authority!) > > > > Fallacious argument. Virtually every adult in the UK is a taxpayer, > > whereas hardly anyone is an OSM mapper. When the OS sells its products > > to an individual taxpayer, it is a case of 'the many' selling to 'the > > few': everyone pays for the OS, but only a few use its products, so it's > > only fair that the few should compensate the many for the investment > > they've made. > > > > -- > > Steve > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > newbies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > > > > _______________________________________________ > > newbies mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > > Yours &c. > > Steve > > > _______________________________________________ > newbies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies > > _______________________________________________ > newbies mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies Yours &c. Steve _______________________________________________ newbies mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/newbies
