On Thu 22 Jul 2004 at 08:46:11, Chris Alvarez said:
> I agree with the languages recommended by Soren, but there are reasons
> of why at most schools the first languages they teach to CS students are
> either Java or C/C++. 

Yes, but the expectation is that someone majoring in CS is going to be a
professional programmer, and Java, C, and C++ are the languages of choice
for a professional.  For a hobbyist, or for someone who only programs
occasionally, I maintain that Python or Ruby is a much better choice.

And I'll second the statement that Swing, SWT, and AWT are pathetically
slow.  You can bog down GTK all you want with a heavy theme, and it still
runs faster than Swing or SWT.  Java's a nice language, but it's gotta
improve the toolkit.  Good thing we've got gtk-java.

-- 
Soren Harward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- http://theboard.byu.edu/
"Americans are always attempting to run away from conformity, but
unfortunately they always start running in the same direction."
                                                  -- Art Buchwald

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