On 29/01/14 23:52, Leigh Tate wrote:
Thank you so much David. We all know how busy you are, but your input is very 
much needed for NewDocs.

Geoff, I'll let you comment on these, since you pointed out the other 
possibilities to begin with.

Svetlana, do you have any input as well? I'm guessing you're still getting your 
bearings in regards to what we're doing, but I know you have the knowledge to 
help make NewDocs the easy to use, up to date work tool we're aiming for.

Best wishes,
Leigh
----- Original Message -----
From: David Manuel Pires
Sent: 01/29/14 07:29 AM
To: newdocs
Subject: [Newdocs] Fwd: NewDocs D page

Hi team.

On 28 January 2014 15:01, Leigh Tate < [email protected] > wrote:

Since we're making some progress on "Listing some Menu Selections in 
CAPITALS?," I thought I'd go ahead and shoot this out to you all for feedback in 
case we want to post it first to our Forum's wiki thread. Also I wanted to mention that 
we have quite a winter storm headed our way and that if for some reason you don't hear 
from me for awhile, it may be because our electricity is out.

Anyway, here are my findings for the NewDocs D page 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/D . I checked for outdated and tagged pages, 
for those addressing versions of Ubuntu no longer supported, and for anything 
else that might need to be addressed. Below is what I found, plus I have 
questions which I will pose first.

QUESTIONS:

Some are links to websites rather than wiki help pages. For example,
- all of the Debian pages
- Debugging Dpkg problems http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems
- Ubuntu Design Blog http://design.canonical.com/
- Devices http://www.ubuntu.com/phone  (acutally "Ubuntu on phones")

1. Should they be left on the D page or moved to Helpful Links 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Links ?
2. Do we need the last two at all since they have nothing to do with help?

I agree with your reasoning, Leigh. The Debugging Dpkg problems 
http://shearer.org/Debugging_Dpkg_Problems  should be moved to the Helpful 
Links https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Links  pages.
The other two are kind of tricky, if we take Geoff's arguments into account, I 
can see a reason for keeping them, but to be honest I'm with Leigh on this and 
I think they should be dropped completely from NewDocs since they're not at 
related to NewDocs's aim. Perhaps the team could vote on a final decision.

Below are pages that are candidates to be moved to ToBeReviewed 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ToBeReviewed  unless anyone thinks otherwise 
for any of them.

OUTDATED PAGES:

DansGuardian  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DansGuardian (last edited 
2011-08-27)
DeletingFiles https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DeletingFiles  (last edited 
2011-04-08)

DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements 
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DemystifyingUnityGraphicsHardwareRequirements  (last 
edited 2011-05-06)
DMZ host with SecurePass 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMZ%20host%20with%20SecurePass  (last edited 
2012-02-08)
Dnsmasq https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dnsmasq  (last edited 2011-12-15)
DrivesAndPartitions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DrivesAndPartitions  
(last edited 2011-05-19)
DualBoot  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot  (last edited 2012-01-16)
DynamicMultiMonitor https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicMultiMonitor  
(last edited 2011-10-14)

Besides the DeletingFiles https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DeletingFiles  
page, which I think should be kept because its contents are correct since there 
wasn't no changes in those CLI commands, all the others should be moved to 
ToBeReviewed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ToBeReviewed .

TAGGED PAGES:

"this page does not exist yet"
DebianImportFreeze https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebianImportFreeze
DownThemAll https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DownThemAll

"needs expansion"
DigitalCameraHowTo https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DigitalCameraHowTo

"This page does not reach the quality of the UserDocumentation 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UserDocumentation  series of index pages, but contains 
useful information"
DVDAuthoring  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DVDAuthoring  (also probably 
outdated - last edited 2010-06-05)

Agree on all. Like Geoff I also don't have the slightest idea from where that 
Debian page come from.

UBUNTU VERSIONS NO LONGER SUPPORTED: none, but see below.

I recommend removing the following two pages altogether:

Debugging Sound Problems https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  
- redirects to SoundTroubleshooting 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting?action=show&redirect=DebuggingSoundProblems
  which advises the info is largely outdated.
DRBD https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DRBD  (blank page last edited 
2010-03-09). This could be moved toToBeReviewed 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ToBeReviewed if we think someone might do 
something with it.

Yes, Leigh. No doubts about those, also.

Cheers,
David

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/slickymaster



Hi Leigh,

My adventurous spirit has now been suitably subdued - I am all for David's suggestions other than I still think that -

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems should still be replaced with -

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems

Cheers,
Geoff.

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