*Here, from Il Fauci's NIH, are new "guidelines" for (not) treating COVID-19 patients* *—**and the livid comments from a lot of doctors, outraged at the guidelines' total* *uselessness:*
*"Overall, the panel concluded that the data are insufficient to recommend for or against* *any antiviral or immunomodulatory therapy for patients with severe COVID-19, nor are* *there sufficient data to recommend for or against any broad-spectrum antimicrobial * *agent in the absence of an existing indications."* > *Thus the NIH says, "We aren't recommending anything." "So, as of today," one doctor* *writes, "the guidance from NIH is to sit back and watch patients die."* *When will the press stop treating Fauci like an oracle, when he's actually a threat to* *public health? He's got to go. * *MCM* NIH Panel Issues Guidelines for COVID-19 Treatment Diana Swift April 22, 2020 > https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/929203 > > > Dr. Maria Rivero15 minutes ago > > What about IV Vitamin C? What about medical ozone? This guideline is worse > than nothing. > Victor Ilog16 minutes ago > > This guidance isn’t guidance at all. > > Not sure what the point of this article was. It appears the only purpose > of the article was for NIH to go on record NOT recommending the use of > combination hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin. Was there any other point or > purpose? > > So as of today, the guidance from NIH is to sit back and watch patients > die. These are supposed to be the smartest people in the room? Thanks for > nothing... > > Dr. Raymond Lodise27 minutes ago > > Alho it's a useless article, one thing: you really can't make a mistake if > it makes sense to you. So in that regard it is helpful. > Dr. Johnny Peet50 minutes ago > > So they recommended no treatments at all. Thanks so much for nothing. > Dr. Paul Dickson54 minutes ago > > Worthless frigging article, with absolutely no new information. It is > useless, unless you can publish something to help those treat these > patients, then SHUT UP, STFU!!! > Dr. Matthew Klein55 minutes ago > > Was there a reason to publish this piece, missing more information than it > states? > Dr. Benton Zwart1 hour ago > > Disappointing. This article can be summarized in 3 words: "We Don't Know" > No mention of the Northern California Internist who has reported a > favorable case series using Duoneb+Mucomyst (Ipratropium > bromide/salbutamol +Acetylcysteine) nebulizer. > Dr. Stacy Childs1 hour ago > > It is not only useless but possibly harmful to publish this guideline as > it is not a guideline at all. It implies we know nothing so do nothing > other than wait it out. Until results of clinical trials start filtering > in, you should print nothing except positive or negative anecdotal results. > If I get this virus, you better believe I will be taking at least > Hydroxychloraquin, zinc, and possibly Z-pac while monitoring my ECG. > Dr. derek cornelius1 hour ago > > Don't do anything; don't try anything. God forbid you try something on > someone that is about to die. That would be unethical. > Dr. anastasios pappas1 hour ago > > Need to monitor serial ferritin to see if a patient is going towards more > cytokine storm syndrome requiring cytokine inhibitors versus those more in > the "influenza like" world that need more antibiotics > Dr. Robert Ross1 hour ago > > Definitely useless information, why waste your time writing or reading. > Dr. anastasios pappas1 hour ago > > If the article does not reference cytokine storm syndrome, etc. It is > lacking in knowledge of COVID -19. > > > Simply utilize the Ireland protocol published March 20th. > > Mikhail Shvarts2 hours ago > > Another “useful” article about covid19 and treatment options. Basically > “nothing is recommended or not recommended”. Why even publish this. > > On that note here are some things I’ve done and seen some success with my > patients. Feel free to add what works with yours. > > 1) consider anticoagulation especially if ferritin and d-dimer are > significantly elevated > > 2) they tend to go into renal failure rather quickly. Unclear as to the > true mechanism involved or maybe just dehydration from fevers and > tachypnea.....so hydrate aggressively....haven’t overloaded anyone yet > > 3) add additional coverage if using azithromycin....alone it is not enough > for severe disease. Fine for moderate to mild cases. > > Dr. michael Assumani3 hours ago > > Is it possible to check chest X-ray in 3D ?this clearly show that the > virus blocks the alveoli and causes a sort of pulmonary embolism with acute > respiratory distress,this is the reason why most of the above mentioned > treatment are not very effective including intubation.I will humbly suggest > we consider other treatments.Humbly > > > In the face of the rapidly evolving COVID-19 pandemic and the absence of > FDA-approved treatments, the National Institutes of Health (NIH) has issued > "living" treatment guidelines > <https://covid19treatmentguidelines.nih.gov/>. The recommendations will > be updated online as new data from peer-reviewed publications and other > authoritative information become available. > A multidisciplinary panel of 30 scientific, clinical, and government > experts started working on the guidelines in late March. They released the > first iteration online yesterday. Other groups, including the Infectious > Diseases Society of America, have previously provided treatment summaries > <https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2500114-treatment> or > recommendations <https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/928706>. > The current NIH guidelines were by compiled by working groups with > expertise in different areas. As per the standard process for establishing > clinical guidelines, these groups systematically reviewed all relevant, > credible information and scientific publications and made three levels of > recommendation of varying strength on the basis of strength of evidence > from randomized and nonrandomized clinical trials, well-designed > observational studies, and expert opinion. > "There are not a lot of data out there to guide us, so we had to rely a > lot on expert opinion," said panel co-chair Roy M. Gulick, MD, MPH, a > professor of medicine and chief of infectious diseases at Weill Cornell > Medicine in New York City. "We have to face the reality that we don't yet > have the controlled clinical data we need in order to say whether something > works. But we asked ourselves whether guidelines were needed now, and we > decided that we do need to provide guidance for clinicians facing critical > patients and wanting to do something to help them." > "At this moment the main sentiment we want to convey is that there are no > licensed treatments for COVID-19, but there are a lot of good ideas. And > the sooner we can test them, the sooner we can update the guidelines," > panel co-chair H. Clifford Lane, MD, clinical director of the National > Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told *Medscape Medical News* > . > -- If you appreciate News From Underground, please consider making a donation — either a one-time gift or a monthly subscription: http://markcrispinmiller.com/support/ Thank you for your support. 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