> Begin forwarded message: > > From: Richard Hill via InternetPolicy <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] [Chapter-delegates] What ISOC is doing > Date: 13 July 2021 at 10:40:30 CEST > To: "'Stephen Farrell'" <[email protected]>, > <[email protected]> > Reply-To: Richard Hill <[email protected]> > > Please see embedded comments below. > > Thanks and best, > Richard > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: InternetPolicy [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Stephen Farrell via InternetPolicy >> Sent: Tuesday, 13 July 2021 03:50 >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [Internet Policy] [Chapter-delegates] What ISOC is doing >> > > SNIP > >> But maybe let's consider your earlier >> analogy: perhaps a "walled garden" is no longer an accurate enough >> descriptor - would it be more accurate (albeit perhaps far too emotive) >> to describe such deployments as "colonial powers"? > > Yes, that's a fair analogy, but a better one is the classic abuse of dominant > market power, as in the railroads in the US in the late 19th century, or in > monopoly telecoms in the 1960's. > >> After all, once such >> a service gets big enough, it can end up exercising a lot of control >> over IXP, ISP and endpoint behaviours and similar, even if >> "colonisation" is not at all a goal of the relevant folks. > > > The reason that I keep referring to proposals presented in trade negotiations > is that I (and many others) see those proposals as being intended to > perpetuate the current "colonization" and cast it in stone in binding > international treaties. > > That's one of the things that keeps me awake at night. > > SNIP > >>> "Users" is a broad category and might not only be the "eyeballs" we >>> often think of. >> >> Indeed. I like how RFC8890 (section 2) tried to cover that. > > Here is a bit from Section 3 of that RFC (citing 4.1 of RFC 3935): > > | The Internet isn't value-neutral, and neither is the IETF. We > | want the Internet to be useful for communities that share our > | commitment to openness and fairness. We embrace technical > | concepts such as decentralized control, edge-user empowerment and > | sharing of resources, because those concepts resonate with the > | core values of the IETF community. These concepts have little to > | do with the technology that's possible, and much to do with the > | technology that we choose to create. >
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