Mah, pare più che altro una dichiarazione pubblica di sfiducia. Sicuramente una 
presa di posizione molto più politico/diplomatica che tecnica. Sicuramente gli 
USA lo facevano anche prima, ma ora gli alti gradi dell'UE non sono più 
d'accordo e lo stanno dicendo pubblicamente. Vale per quel che vale.
SBB


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martedì 15 aprile 2025 13:04, 380° via nexa <[email protected]> ha 
scritto:

> Buongiorno,
> 
> la Commissione EU fa l'offesa se a SPIARE funzionari, scienziati,
> aziende e cittadini europei "ha stato Trump" invece dei suoi
> predecessori...
> 
> ...ipocriti al cubo!
> 
> «Report: EC issues burner phones for visits to US»
> https://www.theregister.com/2025/04/15/ec_burner_devices/
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> 
> 
> The European Commission is giving staffers visiting the US on official
> business burner laptops and phones to avoid espionage attempts,
> according to the Financial Times.
> 
> The use of clean and locked-down hardware is common practice for
> anyone visiting China, Russia, and other states where aggressive
> electronic surveillance is expected. Apparently the European Union has
> added the United States to that list.
> 
> "The transatlantic alliance is over," an EU official [told] the
> newspaper, which reported the commission "is issuing burner phones and
> basic laptops to some US-bound staff to avoid the risk of espionage —
> a measure traditionally reserved for trips to China."
> 
> Next week, officials from the EU are due in Washington DC for the
> spring meetings of the World Bank Group and the International Monetary
> Fund. Four sources told the FT the EC had changed its guidance to
> ensure that visitors to America take serious precautions against
> cyber-espionage.
> 
> "They are worried about the US getting into the commission systems,"
> said one.
> 
> [...]
> 
> Taking a burner device, to be honest, sounds like standard practice
> for people in sensitive lines of work, though this is all being
> interpreted as an indication of quite how badly relations have slipped
> between Europe and the US. And while a certain amount of spying on
> one's allies is [expected] – former German chancellor Angela Merkel
> was [most peeved] when it turns out her phone was being bugged by the
> NSA – a recommendation to take fresh devices is something new.
> 
> More context:
> • [John Kerry bombshell: 'Yes, the NSA… reached TOO FAR,
> inappropriately']
> • [Germany tells America to verpissen off over Huawei 5G
> cyber-Sicherheitsbedenken]
> • [Angela Merkel's phone was being listened in on by FIVE foreign
> powers]
> • [This is how we know Echelon exists]
> 
> Ultimately, spies spy, and when it comes to spying on the world, no
> one doubts America's abilities, regardless of who is in charge.
> 
> "Washington is not Beijing or Moscow, but it is an adversary that is
> prone to use extra-legal methods to further its interests and power,"
> Luuk van Middelaar, director of the Brussels Institute for Geopolitics
> think tank, told the FT.
> 
> "Democrat administrations use the same tactics. It is an acceptance of
> reality by the Commission."
> 
> A European Commission spokesperson, an in email to /The Register/, did
> not deny equipment was being handed out to staff as reported. And
> while the spinner claimed the commission had not issued official
> guidance to use burner laptops and phones, they did admit it had
> tweaked its recommendations.
> 
> "We have recently updated several country specific traveling
> recommendation factsheets for officials. They reflect the latest
> changes in the way the commission communicates and the general
> increase of threats globally regarding cybersecurity," the
> spokesperson told us.
> 
> "Finally, indeed we recommend linking the e-visa to an EU
> laissez-passer for senior officials, in order to underline the
> official nature of the visit and facilitate visa processes in
> embassies prior to departure. Again, these updated recommendations
> were included in many other countries' factsheets to the attention of
> travelling senior officials."
> 
> We understand the FT stands by its yarn. And it wouldn't be the first
> time the EU had [denied] a story, only to later confirm its
> veracity. ®
> 
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> 
> 
> [told] https://www.ft.com/content/20d0678a-41b2-468d-ac10-14ce1eae357b
> 
> 
> [expected] https://www.theregister.com/2001/09/14/this_is_how_we_know/
> 
> 
> [most peeved]
> https://www.theregister.com/2013/11/26/merkel_phone_tapped_by_5_countries/
> 
> 
> [John Kerry bombshell: 'Yes, the NSA… reached TOO FAR, inappropriately']
> https://www.theregister.com/2013/11/01/john_kerry_nsa_spying/
> 
> 
> [Germany tells America to verpissen off over Huawei 5G
> cyber-Sicherheitsbedenken]
> https://www.theregister.com/2019/02/19/germany_huawei_5g_security/
> 
> 
> [Angela Merkel's phone was being listened in on by FIVE foreign powers]
> https://www.theregister.com/2013/11/26/merkel_phone_tapped_by_5_countries/
> 
> 
> [This is how we know Echelon exists]
> https://www.theregister.com/2001/09/14/this_is_how_we_know/
> 
> 
> [denied] https://x.com/paolatamma/status/1907067942660870231
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 380° (lost in /traslation/)
> 
> «Welcome to the chaos of the times
> If you go left and I go right
> Pray we make it out alive
> This is Karmageddon»

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