Hi Matt,

>From what you described it would be a little tough, but it sounds like a
Bicknell's Thrush, peak is a bit low. Without seeing it,  based on the peak
I would not put it as a positive ID. They generally always start around 3.5
to 4kHz  and peak about 5.5 -6kHz, and have a longer less descending
trail/tail in their typical call. In our recordings Gray-cheeked almost
never get above 4kHz (+/- 0.1kHz)  in their peak and the "tail" drops
faster. The length of the tail is sometimes longer in Bicknell's, but that
is very variable, I think more so than the frequency variation. Generally,
the rule of thumb is if it stays between 3-4kHz its a Gray-cheeked, if its
totally above 4Khz peaking around 5.5 to 6kHz its a Bicknell's. Where is
your recording station located in WV, in Summit Point? Generally, the closer
to the coast the more you'll get, but we do get many here. In 04 I think we
had many more for some reason. I would expect you to have them there
(possibly more than us) as you are a bit east of us.

Best,
Mike

Michael Lanzone
Biotechnology and Biomonitoring Lab Supervisor
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
Powdermill Avian Research Center
1847 Route 381
Rector, PA 15677
724.593.5521 Office
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On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Matt Orsie <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello All,
>  I was curious as to what you've seen as frequency ranges between
> these two species? I've recorded nocturnal calls more off than on since
> 2003 and have only seen one or two of what I've called Gray-cheeked
> Thrush peak out over 4khz during that time. Most peak out around 4khz
> and taper off between 3-3.5khz within 75ms or so.
>
> I do have one recording that tops off at 4.6khz and takes over 100ms to
> wind down. I've wondered for a few years if this could possibly have been
> a Bicknell's.
>
> I know there is overlap but I was still curious to what you have seen as
> extremes or averages in your recordings?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Orsie
> Summit Point, WV
>
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