And can't resist pointing out that Wildlife Acoustics (I happen to work there!) 
has a night flight call recording package including a NFC mic and stand alone 
weather proof recorder. The microphone operates on the same "plate" principle 
as the flowerpot

press release: http://www.wildlifeacoustics.com/news/pr20100802a.php

and site info: http://www.wildlifeacoustics.com/sm2_birds.php

Apologies for commercial plug, it just seemed to be appropriate for the 
discussion.

Sherwood Snyder

On Jun 14, 2011, at 1:32 PM, Bill Evans wrote:

> Hello Laurent,
> I would not recommend any preamp for less than $50 USD -- in fact the Rolls, 
> while it works, is not really that great in the sound quality department. At 
> the time I mentioned it on the Old Bird website, it was just the cheapest 
> functional preamp I could find offered online. It is convenient in that it 
> offers multiple input and output connector-type options (i.e., XLR, phone 
> plug, miniplug). The better overall option I think now is to bypass your 
> computer's sound card and use a USB audio interface, such as: Creative Labs 
> E-MU 8740A 0204 USB 2.0 Audio Interface. However, these devices are geared 
> toward music and have bells and whistles beyond what is necessary for night 
> flight call monitoring. By the time you factor in their added cost (~$130) 
> with the parts for microphone & your labor, you might be better off buying a 
> fully-built, ready-to-go, microphone system specifically designed for 
> monitoring night flight calls. If you are on a tight budget, the cheapest 
> preamps are those contained within old cassette decks -- you simply use the 
> cassette deck in the pause-record mode as a preamp, running the signal from 
> your mic into the cassette player's microphone input and out its line-level 
> output to your computer's audio input. With a little searching around one can 
> find an old cassette deck for free or <$10 at a garage sale or junk shop.
> 
> Regarding recording system, yes folks use digital recorders and transfer to 
> computer for later analysis. This is typically done if you are just 
> monitoring on a night-to-night basis. If your intentions are to record 
> nightly for a whole migration season, then it is much more convenient to set 
> up a computer in a permanent location so it can automatically record each 
> night -- you are then hands-free until you choose to analyze your data.
> Bill Evans
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "laurent fournier" 
> <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 10:15 AM
> Subject: [nfc-l] hardware question from a beginner, recorder, preamp, etc
> 
> 
> Hi All
> 
> I am currently in the process of building the "flower pot mic" described in 
> the
> "oldbird" website.
> 
> 2 questions :
> 
> - any tip about which preamp I should use? (does everyone uses one?). The old
> bird website only mention the Rolls MP13 preamp ($70 on Amazon.com), but I
> noticed others available for a much lower price ($20).
> 
> 
> - Does everyone here does their own recording using a laptop, as suggested in
> the oldbird? Does anyone use a digital recorder, and later transfer their 
> files
> on their computer for further analysis?
> 
> 
> Any comment or advice would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> 
> Laurent in Michigan
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