Thank you for your reply,

I'd like to monitor disk usage, but I don't have iostat installed (i'm 
running Red Hat enterprise linux 4), but I will google for an alternative.

I don't know yet how to use channels (and I'd probably wait for some 
public documentation), but I'll see what I can do.

Thanks again.

Peter Haag wrote:
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> - --On February 1, 2007 15:28:32 +0200 Adrian Popa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> | Hello,
> |
> | I have a question about the performance of nfdump, but first, let me
> | explain what I'm trying to do:
> | I have a plugin that searches the collected flows for specific network
> | prefixes (or AS-es) on each exporting router, on specific intefaces. The
> | information is then fed into custom rrd files and plotted as png images.
> | Searching is done by using a top 1 record/bytes and filtering by 'inif x
> | and net 1.2.3.0/24'. Here's an example:
> |
> | $nfdump -r /data/nfsen/profiles/live/$border/nfcapd.$timeslot -n 1 -s
> | record/bytes -o "fmt:%ts %td %pr %sap -> %dap %pkt %byt %bps %in %out
> | %sas %das %fl" '$ifType $if and net $prefix'
> |
> | I have to search for input traffic on a specific interface for a
> | specific network prefix and also for output traffic for the same thing.
> |
> | I achieved to do this, and it works well, but execution time for 2
> | borders (with 3-4 interfaces each), 20 prefixes and 50 AS-es  for a peak
> | traffic of about 2Gbps takes about 3,5 minutes.
>
> If I understand you right, you are going to call this nfdump command for
> each of the prefixes, which results in a lot of sequential nfdump commands.
>
> |
> | In the future I will want to monitor other routers, on the same
> | principle. As far as I see, I can do that, but either I gather less
> | data, or I use a different machine for collecting.
> |
> | A colleague of mine proposed that I split my script (which is 100%
> | sequential) into several threads that run at the same time. Each thread
> | would call nfdump and update it's particular rrd.
> |
> | My question to you is this: Assuming that I start the new processes like
> | threads (or more likely like forked processes), would I get a speed
> | increase? I'd like to say that this script keeps the processor usage at
> | about 60-80%.
>
> The CPU usage is only half of the story for your plugin. Almost every time
> I/O is much more a problem. For each nfdump command you read a lot of data.
> If this amount of data does not fit into the file system cache of your OS,
> the performance rapidly drops. So I'd recommend you to analyse how your
> system behaves in such a plugin cycle. Have a look at the IO using iostat
> check the service time of your disks. If you still have room creating
> more threads can result in better performance. If your IO system is at its
> limit, you will not gain anything, and CPU will stay at 60-80% as your system
> has lots of IO wait. Overcoming this, you would need more RAM to increase the
> available memory for the IO file system cache. A high service time in IO stat
> means slow disks - so you'll need the right balance of disks and memory.
>
> Furthermore you can try to optimise IO by limiting reading data once and doing
> parallel processing - the way which nfprofile does profiling all your 
> channels.
> It reads the data once only and applies all filters to the same data.
>
> Coming back to your plugin - you may try to optimise IO by creating a profile
> with a channel per prefix and creating adequate filters per channel. Your
> plugin then needs to create the stat Top 1 per channel which may result in 
> reading
> less data over all - but this is just a guess.
>
> So - it's a bit of all.
> Hope this helps anyway.
>
>     - Peter
>
> |
> | I don't know if the forked processes would load the same input file into
> | memory again and again, or if they would share the same file (lowering
> | memory consumption)?
> |
> | What are your recomandations?
> |
> | Thank you for your time,
> |
> | --
> | Adrian Popa
> |
> |
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Adrian Popa

Junior Network Engineer
Romtelecom S.A.
Divizia Centrul National de Operare Retea
Departament Transport IP & Metro
Compartiment IP Core



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