To add to this if I delete and recreate the profile the filter subdirectories are empty until the initial run, then .nfstat is created in the subdirectory but nothing is created after that other than in the live profile
> On 08 Aug 2016, at 06:42, Lyndon Labuschagne <lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za> > wrote: > > Hi Garret > > Sorry for the late reply, have used www-data for the permissions > > > root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# ls -la > total 20 > drwxrwxr-x 5 www-data www-data 4096 Aug 7 21:34 . > drwxr-xr-x 9 www-data www-data 4096 Aug 7 16:13 .. > drwxrwxr-x 4 www-data www-data 4096 Aug 7 16:14 live > drwxrwxr-x 3 www-data www-data 4096 Aug 7 21:40 lyndonteracojhb_gp > drwxrwxr-x 6 www-data www-data 4096 Aug 7 21:40 mtdbnc1_kzn > root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# ls -la /usr/bin/nf* > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 113632 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfanon > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 645752 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfcapd > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 364128 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfdump > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 127304 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfexpire > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 138784 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfprofile > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 514640 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nfreplay > -rwxr-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 111880 Aug 7 19:48 /usr/bin/nftrack > root@flows:/data/netflow-data/profiles-data# > > new files under the live directory are reared with the below permissions > > -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 13519 Aug 8 06:40 nfcapd.201608080635 > -rw-r--r-- 1 www-data www-data 276 Aug 8 06:40 nfcapd.current.28699 > > nothing is created under the other profiles > > >> On 07 Aug 2016, at 22:00, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote: >> >> Which user is nfcapd running as? >> >> My config has nfcapd running as user Netflow. >> >> drwxrwxr-x 5 netflow apache 4096 Jun 22 07:30 live >> drwxrwxr-x 8 netflow apache 4096 Jun 2 15:44 PARTNER1 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za] >> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:57 PM >> To: Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> >> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. Missing >> key 'first' >> >> I have tried differing permissions but the user and group is www-data the >> apache user >> >> no errors regarding permissions that I can see >> >> >>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 21:52, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote: >>> >>> Are the permissions correct on the other profile directory? Check the logs >>> that it's not readable. I've seen an issue where you need to set the group >>> to allow the hierarchy to be traversed. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za] >>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:49 PM >>> To: Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> >>> Cc: nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net >>> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. >>> Missing key 'first' >>> >>> Hi >>> >>> Yes they have been committed and the the status is ok >>> >>> >>> with more digging around I see that the nfcapd.YYYYMMDDHHMM files are only >>> created under the live profile and not under the other profiles # >>> name lyndonteracojhb_gp >>> group (nogroup) >>> tcreate Sun Aug 7 21:34:19 2016 >>> tstart Sun Aug 7 21:47:18 2016 >>> tend Sun Aug 7 21:47:18 2016 >>> updated Sun Aug 7 21:47:18 2016 >>> expire 60 days 0 hours >>> size 0 >>> maxsize 10.0 GB >>> type continuous >>> locked 0 >>> status OK >>> version 130 >>> channel lyndonteracojhb_gp sign: + colour: #0099FF order: 1 >>> sourcelist: lyndonteracojhb_gp ERR Error reading channel stat information. >>> Missing key 'first' >>> Files: 0 Size: 0 >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 21:44, Garrett Burke <gbu...@egenera.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Lyndon, >>>> >>>> Did you commit the new profile? >>>> >>>> GB >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Lyndon Labuschagne [mailto:lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za] >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 7:24 PM >>>> To: nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Subject: Re: [Nfsen-discuss] Error reading channel stat information. >>>> Missing key 'first' >>>> >>>> OK went one further scraped the VM >>>> clean install of Ubuntu 16.04 >>>> Running nfsen (1.3.7) and the latest nfdump from github >>>> >>>> rrdtool 1.5.5 >>>> and still the same issue, RRDs are only generated on the live profile >>>> >>>> any advise would be much appreciated >>>> >>>>> On 07 Aug 2016, at 13:00, Lyndon Labuschagne <lynd...@mobiletorque.co.za> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi All >>>>> >>>>> I really hope someone can assist >>>>> >>>>> It seems a few people have run into this issue, and the resolution >>>>> seems to be related to either a change in rrdtool (upgrade or >>>>> downgrade) or having meaningful expiry information >>>>> >>>>> I have tried this on Ubuntu 16 and 14, rrdtool 1.5.5 rrdtool 1.5.6 >>>>> and now rrdtool 1.4.7 >>>>> >>>>> This is the error i get >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Update profile mtdbnc1_kzn in >>>>> group Routers Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Error reading channel >>>>> stat information. Missing key 'first' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: message repeated 3 times: [ Error >>>>> reading channel stat information. Missing key 'first'] >>>>> >>>>> the Live profile works fine, I have created a Routers profile and set the >>>>> expiry to 5 G / 30 Days. >>>>> The Routers profile is Continous Profile individual channels, and a >>>>> Real Profile >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Here is a log extract >>>>> >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Ident: 'lyndonteracojhb_gp' Flows: >>>>> 750, Packets: 52492, Bytes: 72559620, Sequence Errors: 0, Bad Packets: >>>>> 0 Aug 7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Ident: 'mtdbnc1_kzn' Flows: >>>>> 27930, Packets: 248372, Bytes: 64251361, Sequence Errors: 0, Bad >>>>> Packets: 0 Aug 7 12:55:00 flows nfcapd[1577]: Total ignored packets: >>>>> 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug >>>>> 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20929 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20929]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20929]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Signal >>>>> 'start-periodic' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run periodic at Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Prepare profiling './live' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug >>>>> 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[2467]: comm child[20929] terminated with no exit value Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20932]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20930]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 0 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20930]: profiler 0 started Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows >>>>> nfsen[20932]: profiler 1 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: >>>>> profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: profiler 2 started Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20930]: profiler 0 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20932]: profiler 1 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20934]: >>>>> profiler 2 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20936]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20936]: profiler 3 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20936]: profiler 3 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: >>>>> Update profile live in group . >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Add channel size 86016 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Add channel size 1257472 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[2466]: Set new profile size: 1343488 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows >>>>> nfsen[2466]: Add .:live:201608071250 for plugin processing Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20940 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20940]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20940]: >>>>> Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm >>>>> child[20940] terminated with no exit value Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[1868]: >>>>> Signal 'start-periodic' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run periodic at Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Prepare profiling './live' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug >>>>> 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20946 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20946]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20946]: >>>>> Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Signal >>>>> 'start-periodic' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run periodic at Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20941]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20941]: profiler 0 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: >>>>> Prepare profiling './live' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20945]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20945]: profiler 2 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: >>>>> Prepare profiling 'Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20941]: profiler 0 finished Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: 4 channels/alerts to profile Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Limit profilers: 4 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20945]: profiler 2 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: >>>>> profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: profiler 3 started Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20946] terminated with no exit value >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: nfsend: exit child[20944] Exit: 255, >>>>> Signal: 0, Core: 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20943]: profiler 1 started Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows >>>>> nfsen[1868]: nfsend: exit child[20943] Exit: 0, Signal: 13, Core: 0 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20948]: profiler 3 finished Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20952]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#https#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 1 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#www#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 3 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20952]: profiler 1 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20950]: profile opts: Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#dns#mtdbnc1_kzn >>>>> for profiler 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20950]: profiler 0 >>>>> started Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: nfsend: exit child[20956] Exit: 255, >>>>> Signal: 0, Core: 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20955]: profiler 3 >>>>> started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20953]: profile opts: >>>>> Routers#mtdbnc1_kzn#2#ftp#mtdbnc1_kzn for profiler 2 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20953]: profiler 2 started Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20952]: profiler 1 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: >>>>> nfsend: exit child[20955] Exit: 0, Signal: 13, Core: 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[20950]: profiler 0 finished Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[1868]: Update profile mtdbnc1_kzn in group Routers Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows nfsen[1868]: Error reading channel stat information. Missing key >>>>> 'first' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: message repeated 3 times: [ Error >>>>> reading channel stat information. Missing key 'first'] Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Set new profile size: 0 Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows >>>>> nfsen[1868]: Add Routers:mtdbnc1_kzn:201608071250 for plugin >>>>> processing Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20953]: profiler 2 finished >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run plugins for 201608071250 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run plugins done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Check alerts for Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Check alerts done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: Run expire at Sun Aug 7 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: End expire at Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:00 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX >>>>> socket Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20958 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20958]: Cmd Decode: signal Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20958]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20958]: Cleanup Routine Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2233]: >>>>> Signal 'end-periodic' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20958] terminated with >>>>> no exit value Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run plugins for >>>>> 201608071250 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX >>>>> socket Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20959 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Cmd Decode: run-plugins Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Plugin Cycle: ., live, 201608071250 Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20959]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 >>>>> flows >>>>> nfsen[2466]: Run plugins done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Check alerts for Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Check alerts done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Run expire at Sun Aug 7 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: Expire profile live group . low >>>>> water mark: 90%% >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired files: 0 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired file size: 0 B >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 >>>>> sec Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: nfexpire: >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: End expire at Sun Aug 7 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX socket >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20961 Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20959] terminated with no >>>>> exit value Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20961]: Cmd Decode: signal >>>>> Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20961]: Cmd Decode: quit Aug 7 12:55:15 flows >>>>> nfsen[20961]: Cleanup Routine Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2466]: >>>>> Signal 'end-periodic' >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20961] terminated with >>>>> no exit value Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run plugins for >>>>> 201608071250 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: connection on UNIX >>>>> socket Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm server started: 20962 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Cmd Decode: run-plugins Aug 7 >>>>> 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Plugin Cycle: Routers, mtdbnc1_kzn, >>>>> 201608071250 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[20962]: Cmd Decode: quit >>>>> Aug >>>>> 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run plugins done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Check alerts for Sun Aug 7 >>>>> 12:50:00 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Check alerts done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Run expire at Sun Aug 7 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Expire profile live group . >>>>> low water mark: 90%% Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[2467]: comm child[20962] >>>>> terminated with no exit value >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired files: 0 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired file size: 0 B >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 >>>>> sec Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: Expire profile mtdbnc1_kzn group >>>>> Routers low water mark: 90%% Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: >>>>> nfexpire: Force rebuild requested by stat record in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/dns >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested >>>>> by stat record in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/https >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested >>>>> by stat record in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/www >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Force rebuild requested >>>>> by stat record in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/ftp >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/dns .. done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/https .. done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/www .. done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Scanning files in >>>>> /data/netflow-data/profiles-data/Routers/mtdbnc1_kzn/ftp .. done. >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired files: 0 >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired file size: 0 B >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: Expired time range: 0 >>>>> sec Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: nfexpire: >>>>> Aug 7 12:55:15 flows nfsen[1868]: End expire at Sun Aug 7 12:55:00 >>>>> 2016 >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> - >>>>> - >>>>> -------- _______________________________________________ >>>>> Nfsen-discuss mailing list >>>>> Nfsen-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net >>>>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/nfsen-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> 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