In general, I'd say you shouldn't factor plone.net into your thinking and just produce artifacts on plone.org.

--Paul

On Jul 3, 2006, at 2:42 AM, Jon Stahl wrote:


On Jun 30, 2006, at 11:02 AM, Ken Wasetis at ContextualCorp.com wrote:


When we had a break-out session at the 2005 Plone Symposium in New Orleans, we had a small group that focused on what the Plone.net site would look like (and that site looks nice, but since everyone is busy, doesn't seem to keep moving at a great pace.) I still think that Plone.net is probably the place for the prospect/ manager to go to find out about Plone, but that Plone.org shouldn't freak-out a non-techie at first glance. It should have more of a basic look to the site that techies may appreciate, while directing NGO/business users who are just checking out Plone to the proper resource (which I think will be Plone.net, if we continue on the path of one site for marketing and one for the developer community.)

A lot of folks don't even know about the Plone.net site, so I thought I'd mention that this is in the works before everyone starts designing the Plone.org site in a way that overlaps too much with that effort. The thought is that there is still a need for more of a development site - that plone.org will hopefully direct the right people to .net, but keep the developers from pulling hair out from not being able to get to the kind of content they have grown accustomed to getting on the .org site.


This has indeed been this vision.

The problem is that Plone.net seems to have fallen a bit short of getting into a launchable state due, if I recall my conversations with Paul correctly, to insufficient follow-through on work that folks promised to do. (Hey, life is busy.)

The marketing team also seems to have fallen into disarray/ inactivity. (Please, someone tell me I'm wrong!)

I have to say, though, it is causing me to question whether we really have the resources necessary to sustain two community sites. I'd like to believe that we do, but evidence over the past year suggests otherwise. :-(

Paul, perhaps you can outline the tasks that need to be done to get Plone.net launched, and maybe there are some folks here who can step up to the plate to help you make it happen.

If not, then maybe it is worthwhile to re-open the conversation about how to make Plone.org better serve folks "checking Plone out" as well as more committed Plone developers. I don't think that's theoretically impossible, although there may be some logistical barriers.

best,
jon

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