I think requiring people to have ruby installed would be a fairly large
hurdle to the adoption of rake.
Sean Carpenter

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Gabriel Schenker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

>
> I just had a discussion with Fabio about the fact that the current
> build process for NHibernate is fragile and error prone. We have far
> too many situations where all of the sudden the build breaks. Some
> reasons include
>
> - the OS (Windows XP, VISTA, Server 2003 or 2008 32bit versus 64bit)
> - Visual Studio (VS 2005 versus 2008)
> - .NET framework (.NET 2.0 versus 3.5)
> - nant (do I have the right version on my system and is the
> environment path variable configured correctly)
> - tests (do I have an SQL Server and do I have created the [test] and
> [test2] databases
> - human errors: some times a committer just checks in some thing that
> only "works on his machine"
> - etc.
>
> all these factors accumulate to a situation which is far from optimal!
> It's a while ago but I have written an article about how to configure/
> prepare the system for NHibernate.
>
>
> http://blogs.hibernatingrhinos.com/nhibernate/archive/2008/03/31/prepare-your-system-for-nhibernate.aspx
>
> There I described how to download the latest source from trunk and
> build it as well as for .NET 2.0 as for .NET 3.5.
> But today I tried to follow this step-by-step guide and I miserably
> failed... :-(     (not for the first time!)
>
> I think that we can agree that we have now reached a broad adoption of
> NHibernate. The more people are using NHibernate the better the build
> has to be (did I hear "friction-less"?). And yes I am aware that most
> of the people just take the available GA (currently 2.0) but there is
> still quite a big number of people living on the trunk (myself
> included).
>
> As Fabio told me: "..nobody is willing to (really) maintain the nant
> based build..."
>
> My suggestion is now to completely re-work the build of NHibernate and
> implement it e.g. with a "better" build tool that xml-based nant or
> msbuild files. My suggestion would be "rake" (other suggestions are
> welcome).
> In a first phase we can run this new build in parallel to the current
> nant based build until every body can feel the difference
> (by the way: the guys maintaining fluent-nhibernate did already base
> their build on rake... ;-) )
>
> Before I start implementing something I would love to hear some
> feedback about this.
>
> a) do you agree that the current situation is a pita?
> b) do you think completely re-working the build and use a different
> tool (e.g. rake) is adequate?
> c) did I forget some thing?
> d) are you willing to help?

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