Thanks I'll have a look at injecting my own IBatcherFactory
implementation instead.

Mike

On Apr 22, 4:25 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Mike,
> I'm not feeling offended at all.
> My opinion is only just my opinion.
>
> Inject-ability:
> The feature is there. You can inject your IBatcherFactory implementation.
> Inside your batcher you can override DoExecuteBatch and avoid the call
> of VerifyOutcomeBatched.
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM, mikedoherty 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Fabio,
>
> > I'm sorry if my question didn't come across very well. I didn't mean
> > to offend.
>
> > In answer to your points above:
>
> > 1) I didn't raise the defect. I commented on an existing defect in
> > jira.
> > 2) I'm not asking you to do the work. I'm volunteering to submit a
> > patch. In fact I already have a prototype working and wanted to ask
> > your opinion as I am new to the NHibernate codebase.
> > 3) I've already forked it. I'm offering to do the additional work to
> > make this a feature in Nibernate IF that is something you would like
> > included.
>
> > I fully understand all your points about the fundamental nature of
> > this check but why prevent people from removing that check if they
> > know what they are doing. The rest of the framework is really
> > extensible so why does this part have to be fixed? Also what about
> > Diego's point about making the validations injectable? NH is really
> > flexible in other areas.
>
> > At the end of the day I'm volunteering my effort to work with you to
> > create a solution for something that is a pain point for a few of your
> > users. If my contribution doesn't fit with your vision of where
> > NHibernate is going then fair enough.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Mike
>
> > On Apr 22, 2:12 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > - The JIRA is there
> > > - I'm not the only one contributor
> > > - NH is OSS and you can fork it <=== touchable code of this century; NO
> > > Eliot Ness
>
> > > My point is:
> > > Because you can't touch your code you create an issue in NH.
> > > Because your RDBMS has a very poor pagination you create an issue in NH
> > to
> > > have a workaround.
> > > Because your framework does not create a good XYZ you ask more work in NH
> > > that should be done by NH team but following your rules.
>
> > > and my point about about untouchable stuff is public:
> >http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2009/06/database-eliot-ness-of-it.html
>
> > > If you will remove the "expectation" check anything may happen during an
> > > insert/update/delete and you must pray that everything is under your
> > control
> > > (from optimistic-lock to a simple value of column) inside and outside the
> > > batcher.
>
> > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Diego Jancic <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Why is it 'fundamental' ? Can't NH work without it? It looks like a
> > > > validation that could be easily removed.
> > > > I don't need it, and I think Fabio's solution is the best one, however
> > I
> > > > see no reason to don't add a new feature to NH if the patch is
> > submitted.
>
> > > > Maybe there's another solution: make the validations injectable, that
> > way
> > > > validations can be extended or (although it's not recommended) removed.
> > > > Came on Fabio, be good with contributors =)
>
> > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 09:09, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> The check of the expectation is a fundamental check.
> > > >> I have a proposal for you: change the stored procedure.
> > > >> You can't touch it ? well... to work with untouchable code is an hard
> > > >> living; Elliot Ness is not a guy of this century.
>
> > > >> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM, mikedoherty <
> > [email protected]>wrote:
>
> > > >>> Hi,
>
> > > >>> I'm not sure if this is the correct place to be asking this question
> > > >>> but I would like to submit a patch for NH-1353 and have some
> > questions
> > > >>> about my proposed solution and whether or not it would be suitable.
>
> > > >>> Basically our team need to be able to turn off the expectation that
> > > >>> the number of rows returned from the query matches the number
> > expected
> > > >>> by NHibernate as we have no control over the triggers on our 3rd
> > party
> > > >>> database. It would appear that we are not alone in this requirement.
> > > >>> NH-1353 proposes a potential solution to this problem along with a
> > > >>> patch but it appears that this patch was never accepted. As an
> > > >>> alternative then I would like to propose an alternative, and
> > hopefully
> > > >>> more acceptable, solution.
>
> > > >>> Firstly what I would like to propose is that this expectation can be
> > > >>> turned off for an individual entity via the class or collection
> > > >>> mapping. As a result this approach would require a new attribute in
> > > >>> the hbm schema. Is it acceptable to add new attributes or do you need
> > > >>> to keep compatibility with the Java configuration schema?
>
> > > >>> Secondly, assuming a new attribute would be acceptable, what name
> > > >>> should I give to the new attribute? Looking at the schema the sql-
> > > >>> insert, sql-update and sql-delete elements allow control over this
> > > >>> using the "check" attribute. However class already has an attribute
> > > >>> called check for constraints. Within the code there are two ways of
> > > >>> referring to this check either as an Expectation or as
> > > >>> ExecuteUpdateResultCheckStyle so maybe the attribute could be called
> > > >>> "expectation" or "check-style"? I would appreciate guidance on this
> > > >>> too.
>
> > > >>> Thanks in advance,
>
> > > >>> Mike Doherty
>
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>
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