LOL!!
I said " log4net adapter" not log4net itself ;)

On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:

> Just to point out, for NH Prof, merging log4net would actually make things
> a lot more complex.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I remember the time when I have removed the reference to Castle from
>> NH-Core.
>> The advantage was clear for who, like me, was a Castle-trunk user: no more
>> egg and chicken problem (aka bergamotta circular)
>>
>> The wrong decision, at the time, was to force a new property
>> configuration... probably I'll remove this constraint in a way or another
>> without force a default.
>>
>> For what I saw in my work, at least 90% of application, using NHibernate,
>> are WEB applications.
>> At least 90% of those WEB application are using Castle.DynProxy2 as
>> dyn-proxy system.
>>
>> So far, for NH3 they will have to deploy:
>> NHibernate, Iesi.Collection, re-linq, Antlr3, NHibernate.Bytecode.Castle,
>> Castle.Core, Castle.DynProxy2 and log4net
>> 8 DLLs only because NHibernate
>>
>> To give support to Client-Profile we will have:
>> NHibernate, Iesi.Collection, re-linq, Antlr3, NHibernate.Bytecode.Castle,
>> Castle.Core, Castle.DynProxy2, log4net
>> and
>> NHibernate.Web, Common.Logging, Common.Logging.Log4Net
>> and
>> configuration of common logging in web.config
>> (note : they should download Common.Logging.Log4Net from another site).
>>
>> We will make happy at most 10% of users (supposing that all no-web
>> applications are interested in client-profile-support) and we will hurt 90%.
>>
>> Instead reduce NH's external-dependencies we will change one with another
>> and I can't see where is the benefit.
>>
>> Note: many NH's user are using NHProf, someone are using NHTrace (both
>> based in log4net), some other use directly log4net and probably mostly does
>> not activate the logger.
>>
>> Even if I think that we don't have to reinvent the wheel, I'm inclined to
>> use our solution removing the dependency to log4net but distributing a NH
>> version with a log4net adapter merged.
>>
>> That's my thought.
>>
>> --
>> Fabio Maulo
>>
>>
>


-- 
Fabio Maulo

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