Thanks Stefan, I'm way behind on my emails but was just about to reply with
exactly that :)  Has anyone tried this query with the new provider?  I would
expect it to work, and if it doesn't it should be fixed for sure.  If no one
has, then I'll knock up a test.

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Wenig, Stefan <[email protected]>wrote:

> Just a reminder: this issue (skip/take/count) has only been reported for
> the old contrib-provider, not for NH3.
>
> Gesendet von meinem HTC
>
> ----- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -----
> Von: Rumen Stankov <[email protected]>
> Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Juli 2010 16:19
> An: nhibernate-development <[email protected]>
> Betreff: [nhibernate-development] Re: Linq-to-NHibernate issue with paging
> and  counts
>
>
> Hello Folks,
>
> I'm working on the grid in question, Trirand's jqGrid for ASP.NET
> WebForms/MVC:
> http://www.trirand.net/demoaspnetmvc.aspx
>
> Thanks to Alastair for starting this obviously very popular thread.
> The reason the query is written that way Skip(x).Take(y) is that "y"
> is the fixed page size of the grid, say, 10, but we can be on the last
> page and the actual page size would be, say, 6 - hence we need the
> count and it might be different than "y".
>
> That said, we are definitely interested in making sure we work with
> NHibernate (and in fact any other popular ORM engines out there like
> LLBLGen), so we will probably use some of your ideas and modify the
> LINQ query sequence so that count is correct.
>
> Thanks a lot for the suggestions.
>
> Regards,
> Rumen Stankov
> Trirand Inc.
>
> On Jul 23, 5:35 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > NH has and will have bugs as any others software.
> > That is what everybody should assume.
> >
> > NH is not the best persistence framework in .NET ecosystem, it is "only"
> the
> > most used, the most powerful, the most flexible so far.
> > If a user can find something else that fit his needs, there is no
> problem.
> > We can do our best but "make everybody happy" is not one of our target.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:23 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > and everyone should think that NH is not the place where ask the
> solution
> > > of
> > > > all evils.
> >
> > >         I don't think that's the point. The point is:
> > > 1) if NH says it contains a working Linq provider, a user can only
> assume
> > > it
> > > indeed works. If it doesn't, the user can only conclude: the linq
> provider
> > > doesn't work or has a bug. If a feature hasn't been implemented, the
> linq
> > > provider is thus incomplete. Unfortunately, an incomplete linq provider
> is
> > > more a burden than a blessing.
> > > 2) if NH wants to be the best o/r mapper out there, a working linq
> provider
> > > is essential. The main reason is that more and more people will learn
> about
> > > o/r mapping and learn Linq, how it works etc. as there are many books,
> > > articles written for EF and Linq to SQL and linq itself. If these
> people
> > > can't use their knowledge with NH, the barrier to accept it as the best
> > > there is is higher.
> >
> > >                FB
> >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Roy Jacobs <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >       > > The 'ToList()' workaround is silly really, you don't want
> to
> > > > fetch
> > > >       > > all data to do an aggregate in-memory
> >
> > > >       > eh?!??!??
> > > >       > NH ha to workaround RDBMS issue.
> > > >       > NH have to work around to commercial companies visual
> components.
> >
> > > >       I think Frans' point is that even though the Count() seems
> > > redundant
> > > >       after a Take(), it's still a completely valid LINQ query.
> >
> > > >       Certainly, when one is directly writing the LINQ query, it's
> not a
> > > >       problem to simply add a ToList(), but when working with
> third-party
> > > >       components like the original poster is, it's not always
> reasonable
> > > to
> > > >       expect them to be able to modify the query.
> >
> > > >       Having said that, I think everyone is aware how complex writing
> a
> > > > LINQ
> > > >       provider is :)
> >
> > > >       --
> > > >       Roy
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Fabio Maulo
> >
> > --
> > Fabio Maulo
>

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