There seems to be little if any consensus about the 'right' way to do
this.  NuGet now does support the idea of pre-release packages (e.g.
something like 3.0.0-alpha as version number) and the ability to filter
these IN or OUT of the search results in the NuGet client dialog but the
idea of every CI build showing up as a pre-release version of the same NH
package that would eventually become the release has some challenges:


   1. pre-release packages use alpha-numeric sorting to determine 'latest'
   by version so while 3.0.0-beta would be properly newer than 3.0.0-alpha
   (since B after A), determining a suffix for *every* CI build that ensures
   that the proper 'latest' pre-release is always seen by nuget as 'latest'
   isn't trivial (we could do something like 3.0.0-ci-000001, 3.0.0-ci-000002,
   3.0.0-ci-000003, etc. but that's probably a bit obtuse for people to
   understand what's going on and in any case we'd quickly run out of digits
   unless we did something silly like 3.0.0-ci-0000000000000000000000000000001
   )
   2. IMO there is (probably) a difference betw. a) people who will only
   want to use the official release, b) people who are willing to use
   'official pre-release milestones' like alpha, beta, whatever, and c) people
   who really want to live on the bleeding edge of 'every CI build'.  NuGet's
   pre-release versioning strategy distinguishes betw. a) and b) but NOT betw.
   b) and c).  "Muddying" the distinction betw. b) and c) for us would mean
   that it would no longer be possible to use nuget's pre-release versioning
   to actually release something like 3.0.0-alpha and have it appear as
   'latest pre-release' b/c it wouldn't be 'after 3.0.0-ci-0000X.  Creatively
   considering the suffixing strategy might permit this to still work, but its
   non-trivial to reason through.  Worse, even if we were to do something
   clever with suffixes that solved this problem we'd need to consider how to
   handle the situation where we put out 3.0.0.-special-suffix-for-beta and
   then someone commits and the CI process publishes something that suddenly
   appears LATER than 3.0.0-special-suffx-for-beta.  This would make it more
   challenging for those seeking the beta to find it since it wouldn't any
   longer be 'latest'.

All of these limitations re: the design/impl of nuget's pre-release
versioning scheme lead me to conclude that using it for CI builds is too
much of a problem (both for package authors and for package consumers).
FWIW, I've done considerable investigation into this in the context of
other OSS projects with CI builds and have concluded that the only feasible
strategy for publishing CI-build-based packages to nuget is one of the
following:

   1. Create your own sep. NuGet feed (either self-hosted or something like
   myget.org) and post CI-build-based packages there; those that want
   'bleeding edge' add this second feed to their nuget client; those that
   don't can still distinguish betw. pre-release milestone versions (alpha,
   beta, etc.) and actual release versions in the main nuget feed
   2. Create a completely separate package entirely (e.g.,
   NHibernate-CI.nupkg vs. NHibernate.nupkg) that represents the
   CI-build-based content and still push this 'second' package to the main
   nuget feed.

#1 is less discoverable but since you can filter by nuget feed source in
the Nuget dialog box its then possible for a consumer to explicitly select
the CI-only feed when they want to add/update the package based on CI build
and then select the main nuget feed only when they want to see either/or
pre-release milestone packages or the final release packages.

#2 is more discoverable since its in the main feed (and would presumably
contain the name 'NHibernate' as part of its package name so it would
appear in the search results) but it has another challenge: if its a
DIFFERENT package entirely, then when the main package goes 'GA' (release)
consumers of the NHibernate-CI package will have NO WAY OF KNOWING b/c they
won't be using the main NHibernate.nupkg in their projects at that point
(and doing a nuget-update-packages won't pull down the 'official release'
at that point b/c they aren't using that actual package at all).

If there are other ideas about the best way to handle this, then I am
*absolutely* interested in hearing about them since this is a non-trivial
set of issues to grapple with and I continue to seek the best possible
approach that might be out there (for NH as well as other .NET OSS projects
that have this exact same set of challenges to exposing their CI builds as
NuGet packages).

Regards,
Steve Bohlen
[email protected]
http://blog.unhandled-exceptions.com
http://twitter.com/sbohlen


On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Alexander I. Zaytsev <[email protected]>wrote:

> Hi all.
>
> I think that it would be greate if our CI-builds would be available at the
> nuget.
>
> What do you think?
>

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