It works! Thanks alot for your help, Ken! It would so helpful if it would be
mentioned in those blog post.

On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:18 PM, Ken Egozi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Andrew Melnichuk <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Ok i see.
>> Yes, approach from blog post will work. But the deeper collection have to
>> be fetched, the bigger cartesian product will be returned. I have 5-6 levels
>> tree.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Ken Egozi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, here's why it's not working:
>>>
>>> when you access c.Customers, NH can't be sure that all of the relevant
>>> customers for c are loaded. so it's going to the DB.
>>> the approach described in the said blog post is loading the child
>>> collection based on a join to the type it belongs to
>>>
>>> so, "select cs from Country c join fetch c.Customers cs where c = :c"
>>> should work.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Andrew Melnichuk <
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just to be sure... if NH logs sql statement, is it 100% will reach db?
>>>> I'm just using SQLite inmemory mode, can't use profiler.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:03 PM, Andrew Melnichuk <
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I changed
>>>>> Assert.That(NHibernateUtil.IsInitialized(c.Customers));
>>>>> to
>>>>> Assert.That(c.Customers.Count == 2);
>>>>>
>>>>> and it still hits the db, here is the SQL
>>>>>
>>>>> // for root
>>>>> select country0_.Id as Id0_, country0_.Name as Name0_ from Country
>>>>> country0_ where (Name='Germany' )
>>>>>
>>>>> // for collection
>>>>> select customer0_.Id as Id1_, customer0_.Name as Name1_,
>>>>> customer0_.CountryId as CountryId1_ from Customer customer0_ where
>>>>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED] )and(customer0_.Name='GermanyCustomer1' ); @p0 =
>>>>> '1'
>>>>>
>>>>> // for collection.count
>>>>> SELECT customers0_.CountryId as CountryId1_, customers0_.Id as Id1_,
>>>>> customers0_.Id as Id1_0_, customers0_.Name as Name1_0_,
>>>>> customers0_.CountryId as CountryId1_0_ FROM Customer customers0_ WHERE
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]; @p0 = '1'
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Ken Egozi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> try to simply access the c.Customers and check (via show-sql or DB
>>>>>> profiler) that the DB is not being hit, but the customers data is being
>>>>>> hooked from the session cache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 6:40 PM, Andrew Melnichuk <
>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a complex object graph. There is a root entity which has a set
>>>>>>> of collections (some of them are pretty big), entities in collections 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> their own collections etc.. - a kind of tree. I need to fetch this tree 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> minimum performance hit for database. I have tried 2 options for now:
>>>>>>> 1st - load root entity, and then navigate through properties to load
>>>>>>> all child and grandchild collections, ofcourse set fetch="subselect" in
>>>>>>> mapping file before, to prevent select n+1 problem
>>>>>>> 2nd - use approach, described here
>>>>>>> http://blogs.hibernatingrhinos.com/nhibernate/archive/2008/04/06/eager-loading-aggregate-with-many-child-collections.aspx,
>>>>>>> where different collections load by different queries, but session is 
>>>>>>> smart
>>>>>>> enough, to merge different result to object graph, initializing 
>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>> collections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But i can't use 1st approach, because i can't define fetch plan on a
>>>>>>> global level (number of reasons), and i can't use 2nd approach, because 
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> seems that it works fine for 1st level collection only, selecting deeper
>>>>>>> level collections will produce cartesian product, which will grow with 
>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>> of query of collection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What i thought about, is would it be possible to use approach based
>>>>>>> on several queries, like 2nd approach i mentioned. The difference is i 
>>>>>>> tried
>>>>>>> to start fetching not from the root entity level, but from the level i 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to fetch next, after i already fetched with previous query. For example:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>         [Test]
>>>>>>>         public void Test1()
>>>>>>>         {
>>>>>>>             // load root entity
>>>>>>>             Country c = _session
>>>>>>>                 .CreateQuery("from Country where Name = 'Germany'")
>>>>>>>                 .List<Country>()[0];
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             // trying to load 1st level child collection
>>>>>>>             _sess
>>>>>>>                 .CreateQuery("from Customer cs where cs.Country =
>>>>>>> :c")
>>>>>>>                 .SetParameter("c", c)
>>>>>>>                 .List();
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>             Assert.That(NHibernateUtil.IsInitialized(c.Customers));
>>>>>>> // fails
>>>>>>>         }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought that session will initialize Country.Customers collection,
>>>>>>> but it is not.
>>>>>>> Ofcourse i could use eager join for this collection and others at the
>>>>>>> same level, but as i said this will causes cartesian product for deeper
>>>>>>> collections.
>>>>>>> I'm not sure that what i did is valid, maybe it is invalid by design,
>>>>>>> however it seems that session can initialize customers collection, 
>>>>>>> since it
>>>>>>> "knows" to which country selected customers belongs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just wanted to ask, how people solve same problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Andrew Melnichuk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ken Egozi.
>>>>>> http://www.kenegozi.com/blog
>>>>>> http://www.musicglue.com
>>>>>> http://www.castleproject.org
>>>>>> http://www.gotfriends.co.il
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> Andrew Melnichuk
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Andrew Melnichuk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Egozi.
>>> http://www.kenegozi.com/blog
>>> http://www.musicglue.com
>>> http://www.castleproject.org
>>> http://www.gotfriends.co.il
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Andrew Melnichuk
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ken Egozi.
> http://www.kenegozi.com/blog
> http://www.musicglue.com
> http://www.castleproject.org
> http://www.gotfriends.co.il
>
> >
>


-- 
Best regards,
Andrew Melnichuk

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