It is not a bad idea, it is just that you need to understand what it means
to put the association on the other end.It is very natural for the wishlist
to have a user property, because it is in its own table.
When you have a one to many association, by definition it is not on the same
table, so it goes as a separate statement.

If you don't want bidi, then you uni on the many to one side seems natural.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 2:29 AM, Tim Barcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you expound a bit...I'm thinking about this in the context of someone
> new to DDD.  My thought is that a WishList belongs to a user.  We don't
> typically care about wishlists by themselves, we only care about them in the
> context of a user.
>
> Can you explain why this is a bad idea and I'd want the unidirectional the
> other way?
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 7:10 PM, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> It is not bad, the problem is that you are trying to make it
>> unidirectional in the wrong direction. The way this works is that the
>> wishlist belongs to a user. This means that you usually have the uni
>> directional from that, and query from the user if you need to.
>> That is a good idea anyway, since that means that you start thinking about
>> things like unbounded result sets.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Tim Barcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> Below are the mapping files....however the problem I see is that I want
>>> to do a unidirectional mapping.  There are two tables (Users and WishLists),
>>> of which WishLists has a foreign-key ref back to users.  A Wishlist doesn't
>>> exists outside the context of a user.  I'm reading some places where this is
>>> "bad" in NH.  I would like to keep this unidirectional as it feels more
>>> correct.
>>>
>>> Suggestions.
>>>
>>> <hibernate-mapping xmlns="urn:nhibernate-mapping-2.2"
>>> namespace="NHWishList.Model" assembly="NHWishList">
>>>     <class name="User" table="Users">
>>>         <id name="UserId" column="UserId" type="Int32" unsaved-value="0">
>>>             <generator class="native" />
>>>         </id>
>>>         <property name="First" column="First" length="50" not-null="true"
>>> />
>>>         <property name="Last" column="Last" length="50" not-null="true"
>>> />
>>>
>>>         <bag name="WishLists" cascade="all" lazy="true">
>>>             <key column="UserId"/>
>>>             <one-to-many class="WishList"/>
>>>         </bag>
>>>     </class>
>>> </hibernate-mapping>
>>>
>>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" ?>
>>> <hibernate-mapping xmlns="urn:nhibernate-mapping-2.2"
>>> namespace="NHWishList.Model" assembly="NHWishList">
>>>     <class name="WishList" table="WishLists">
>>>         <id name="WishListId" column="WishListId" type="Int32"
>>> unsaved-value="0">
>>>             <generator class="native" />
>>>         </id>
>>>         <property name="Name" column="Name" length="50" not-null="true"
>>> />
>>>         <many-to-one name="Owner" column="UserId" class="User"
>>> not-null="false" />
>>>     </class>
>>> </hibernate-mapping>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Gabriel Schenker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> show your mappings please
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Tim Barcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok that's well and good...so I've got unidirectional going on....but am
>>>>> seeing strangeness
>>>>>
>>>>> NHibernate: INSERT INTO Users (First, Last) VALUES (@p0, @p1); select
>>>>> SCOPE_IDENTITY(); @p0 = 'Tim', @p1 = 'Barcz'
>>>>> NHibernate: INSERT INTO WishLists (Name, UserId) VALUES (@p0, @p1);
>>>>> select SCOPE_IDENTITY(); @p0 = 'Sample', @p1 = ''
>>>>> NHibernate: UPDATE WishLists SET UserId = @p0 WHERE WishListId = @p1;
>>>>> @p0 = '8', @p1 = '1'
>>>>>
>>>>> Why does this have to be three calls?  After the first call, the second
>>>>> should have the ID from the first (the userId).  The update should be
>>>>> unnecessary.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 1:40 AM, Gabriel Schenker <
>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> first of all to decrease complexity I would only use uni-directional
>>>>>> relations in my domain model (even though in the database any relation is
>>>>>> bi-directional) that is, a wishlist does not have to know any thing 
>>>>>> about a
>>>>>> user or about its manager
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Tim Barcz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a user object and the user can have a number of wishlists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Instead of having methods on user (ie. User.AddWishlist,
>>>>>>> User.RemoveWishlist), I have a WishListManager which has these methods 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Persistent entities include, WishList and WishList item, which relate
>>>>>>> back to the user through the WishListManager.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How would I set up this mapping in NHibernate?  Can someone point me
>>>>>>> in the right direction?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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