Hi Ayende - thanks for the reply.

If I understand you correctly you want me to load everything from the
"fourth" table - the one that Level3 has two many-to-many connections
to, and then load all the LevelX items by loading all of the Level1
classes ?

Will the loading of the Level3 items not cause a reload of the fourth
table again?

Regards
Thomas




On 20 Jan., 20:31, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> session.CreateCriteria(typeof(ForthTable)).List();
> sesson.CreateCriteria(typeof(Level)).List();
>
> Two queries, and you loaded everything.
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Thomas Koch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Will and Ayende - thanks for the replies.  :-)
>
> > I know there are Select N+1 going on here. The main cause of all
> > theses selects is that I have three different classes that constitutes
> > a tree with three levels: Level1 -> Level2 -> Level3.
>
> > I have 20 rows at Level1, 40 rows at Level2 and 300 rows at Level3.
> > Each level has a list of the next level - mapped as a bag in the .hbm
> > files. Level2 and Level3 each have a list of objects pointing back to
> > themselves. Moreover the lowest level (Level3) has two many-to-many
> > collections to a fourth class (table). In fact it is this lowest level
> > that is causing most of the selects.
>
> > As far as I understand I can only put fetch="join" on one property on
> > a mapped class and with all these references on Level2 and Level3 it
> > seems to me that its usability is limited in my scenario.
>
> > The workaround I have been thinking of is to create a class for all
> > ten tables, many-to-many tables included, and then simply do ten
> > LoadAll(). I would then build object graph manually instead of having
> > NHibernate do it.
>
> > Is that what you guys would do in a similar situation?
>
> > Regards
> > Thomas
>
> > On 20 Jan., 20:07, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > You have a select N+1, and it is a problem.It is pretty common to do
> > > preloading on app startup, but that should be even close to that number.
> > > You need to optimize your startup queries.
>
> > > On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Thomas Koch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi - I have a discussion with some co-workers regarding the number of
> > > > hits that NHibernate is performing against our database.
>
> > > > Our setup: We are developing ASP.NET applications using NHibernate 2.0
> > > > for the data access.
>
> > > > We have a web-application containing static information stored in 7
> > > > inter-connected classes based on 10 underlying tables. This static
> > > > information is needed all the time, thus we load all of this into
> > > > memory when the application starts.
>
> > > > Using NHibernate to create and fill this object hierarchy we get 1100
> > > > selects being sent to the database. This takes around 6 seconds to
> > > > complete.
>
> > > > My co-workers feel that this is an accident waiting to happed, whereas
> > > > I myself consider this less of problem - after all we only do this
> > > > once on application start-up.
>
> > > > What do you think? Is 1100 select statements on application start
> > > > something to be afraid of?
>
> > > > Any opinion/advice is appreciated.
>
> > > > Regards
> > > > Thomas
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