but it is a winService a webService a winForm a webForm a ASP.MVC, is using
WCF, is based on messages....What you can do ("on-the-fly analysis") is open
one session per persistence iteration.
Mean:
- start iteration
- open session for db1 and db2
- read from db1
- write to db2
- commit db2 / rollback db1
- dispose session of db1 and db2
- end iteration


2009/3/17 Utopico <[email protected]>

>
> Basically what I have is the following:
> * One application that stores data to one database (raw binary data)
> * One application that gets data from this database, decodes and
> processes it before writing it back to another database.
> * The reason for the two databases is that the first application is
> made very simple so that it can become "bugfree" while the other is
> more complex with possible user extensions with new decoders and
> processing algorithms.
> * Both these applications is 24/7 applications with data comming in
> fairly frequently (every 10-30 seconds)
> * So the application I refere to here is the second one
> * They will mostly run without user interaction
>
>
> On 17 Mar, 14:39, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Where is the description of the use case?
> >
> > 2009/3/17 Utopico <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > How would you suggest to have the session management pattern?
> >
> > > On 17 Mar, 14:23, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > 2009/3/17 Utopico <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > Ok. Thank you very much.
> >
> > > > > I guess the second-level cache will not be cleared during this
> > > > > process?
> >
> > > > No man.... not the cache but the session-cache.
> > > > BTW change you session management pattern.
> >
> > > > > On 17 Mar, 14:00, Oskar Berggren <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > If you're interested you could have a look at the numbers in
> > > > > > ISession.Statistics for an idea about how big your session has
> > > become.
> >
> > > > > > /Oskar
> >
> > > > > > 2009/3/17 Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > > > open and close the nh-session for each message/operation.
> >
> > > > > > > 2009/3/17 Utopico <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > > >> In a real application there would be many datasources
> reporting
> > > data
> > > > > > >> (at less frequent intervals). So how would you suggest to
> handle
> > > the
> > > > > > >> session in this case? A realistic scenario would about 30
> > > datasources
> > > > > > >> reporting data every 60 minutes.
> >
> > > > > > >> On 17 Mar, 12:16, Oskar Berggren <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > Session is not really meant to be long running. Try creating
> a
> > > new
> > > > > > >> session
> > > > > > >> > for each "run" or at least clear the sessions cache.
> >
> > > > > > >> > /Oskar
> >
> > > > > > >> > 2009/3/17 Utopico <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > > >> > > Using same session (at least th. I have now done a bit
> more
> > > > > > >> > > monitoring. And it seems that the CPU and memory load is
> > > > > increasing
> > > > > > >> > > over time while the actual disc writes does not. Also the
> > > > > performance
> > > > > > >> > > of the database server does not seem to change when
> monitoring
> > > the
> > > > > > >> > > database directly while the application is running.
> >
> > > > > > >> > > On 17 Mar, 11:07, Ayende Rahien <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > Are you using the same session? Or creating a session
> every
> > > > > time?
> >
> > > > > > >> > > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Utopico <
> > > > > [email protected]>
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > I have used hibernate for about half a year, but not
> with
> > > very
> > > > > > >> high
> > > > > > >> > > > > load. Yesterday I had an application running that
> slowed
> > > down
> > > > > > >> > > > > significantly after running through the night (from
> > > fraction
> > > > > of a
> > > > > > >> > > > > second to 10-15 seconds). I am pretty sure that there
> is
> > > > > somthing
> > > > > > >> can
> > > > > > >> > > > > be done to improve this, or a way to find out what is
> the
> > > > > cause. I
> > > > > > >> > > > > need some help with this.
> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > So for my application
> > > > > > >> > > > > * I use NHibernate 2.0.0.GA
> > > > > > >> > > > > * Visual studio 2008
> > > > > > >> > > > > * FirebirdSQL 2.0
> > > > > > >> > > > > * received data every 15 seconds on a serial port
> which is
> > > > > then
> > > > > > >> > > > > decoded. This results in:
> > > > > > >> > > > >   - check for datatype (cached query through SysCache
> > > since
> > > > > these
> > > > > > >> > > > > values are updated seldom, but checked often) and
> possible
> > > > > > >> addition of
> > > > > > >> > > > > new datatype entry (each datavalue has a datatype
> > > associated
> > > > > with
> > > > > > >> it)
> > > > > > >> > > > >   - using sequence generator for ID on datavalue and
> > > > > dataobject
> > > > > > >> > > > >   - insert of a dataobject which has about 120 values
> > > > > associated
> > > > > > >> as
> > > > > > >> > > > > follows (results in one dataobject insert and 120
> inserts:
> > > > > > >> > > > >        [NHibernate.Mapping.Attributes.Bag(Table =
> > > > > "DATA_VALUE",
> > > > > > >> > > > > Inverse = true, Lazy = true, OrderBy = "TYPE_ID ASC,
> IDX
> > > ASC",
> > > > > > >> Cascade
> > > > > > >> > > > > = "all-delete-orphan")]
> > > > > > >> > > > >        [NHibernate.Mapping.Attributes.Key(1, Column =
> > > > > "REC_ID")]
> > > > > > >> > > > >        [NHibernate.Mapping.Attributes.OneToMany(2,
> > > ClassType =
> > > > > > >> typeof
> > > > > > >> > > > > (Nortek.SeaState.Domain.DataValue))]
> > > > > > >> > > > >        public virtual IList<DataValue> Values
> > > > > > >> > > > >        {
> > > > > > >> > > > >            get
> > > > > > >> > > > >            {
> > > > > > >> > > > >                return this._values;
> > > > > > >> > > > >            }
> > > > > > >> > > > >            set
> > > > > > >> > > > >            {
> > > > > > >> > > > >                this._values = value;
> > > > > > >> > > > >            }
> > > > > > >> > > > >        }
> > > > > > >> > > > > * All the above is inclosed in a transaction with
> > > ReadCommited
> >
> > > > > > >> > > > > Would I benefit from batch inserts or any other
> > > performance
> > > > > trick?
> > > > > > >> Or
> > > > > > >> > > > > is there some stupid flaw in my way of using
> hibernate?
> >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Fabio Maulo
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Fabio Maulo
> >
> > --
> > Fabio Maulo
> >
>


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