What *does* he want with ids if not hilo and not sequences or guids?

Cheers,

Greg

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 4:50 PM, [email protected] <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> 1) It would be nice to work with nullable datetimes in the code since
> that is a "not set" scenario to object guys.  I've already made the
> user type that converts to/from the DB.  It is easy and clean and
> makes both parties happy.
> 3) oh he hasn't accepted it yet.  The argument being that it leaves
> gaps in the IDs.  If we have a bigint and the apps restart once a day,
> it isn't going to leave alot of gaps in the IDs.  I offered him unique
> identifiers but we all know that didn't go anywhere.
> 4) I've thought about adding a where map attribute to all the child
> associates which I dislike and that doesn't solve the many-to-one
> scenarios.  I'm thinking I can override ManyToOneType & OneToManyType
> to translate zero to null from the DB and NULL to 0 at the DB.  To
> prevent NH from thinking it is a new record, I'll probably have to set
> unsaved-value = -1 or something weird like that.  This is a stupid
> requirement from the DBA imo!
>
> On May 26, 3:45 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 1) you don't need a custom user type (a DateTime had a value)2) you don't
> > need a custom user type (assign string.Empty to the property in the Ctor)
> > 3) Alleluia!!! a DBA accepting HighLow
> > 4) here you really need to do something. Zero is a value and even if you
> can
> > use not-found="ignore" NH will try to get it before ignore (mean an
> > additional SELECT)... in my mind no relation mean no value... but you
> know
> > I'm not a DBA or, at least, I'm an ORM-oriented guy.
> >
> > Try to convert ithttp://www.agiledata.org/essays/dbaSkills.html
> >
> > 2009/5/26 [email protected] <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I work with an extremely difficult SQL Server DBA that hates anything/
> > > everything that is not a stored procedure.    However, he's started
> > > coming around and but has still placed the following constraints.
> >
> > > 1) Dates must be small datetime and NON-nullable.  Nullable dates are
> > > equal to 1900/1/1.  Easy enough to get around with a nh usertype for
> > > querying and persistence.
> > > 2) Strings/VARCHAR must be non-nullable.  Also very solvable via empty
> > > string nh user type.
> > > 3) Idents are evil and will not be used.  Easy to get around with
> > > hilo.
> > > 4) Now for the tough part which is where my question is.  All
> > > associations that are NULLABLE actually link to a "placeholder" record
> > > with ID 0.  What would the community guys recommend?  That I override
> > > the ManyToOne and OneToMany types to deal with this or do you have a
> > > better suggestion?
> >
> > > I have used NHibernate for several years now without ever so much as a
> > > blip of a problem.  NHibernate is an ideal tool for the company I'm
> > > with now assuming I can get around these DBA related issues.  Has
> > > anyone ever heard of some of these bizarre requirements and how did
> > > you deal with them?
> >
> > --
> > Fabio Maulo
> >
>


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