well... what I suggest is CpBT because, so far, it is working very well.What
I'm seeing is that many winForm/wpf developers are scared by IoC/AOP (that
shouldn't be your case if in some moment you was thinking about PostSharp).
Perhaps I should find the time to implements a "manual" management of CpBT.

Which is the architecture of your tiers ?

winForm -> Presenter? -> MVM? -> ??? -> DAOs?/Repository? -> NH -> DB
or
winForm -> NH -> DB

Don't worry about how you think the architecture but try to explain the true
here (for me is important to understand which was the problem with CpBT)

2009/6/24 joshlrogers <[email protected]>

>
> Ok, you confirmed something I was thinking but was not sure of in
> regards to the session per call.  So then how do you suggest setting
> the boundaries of a session in a win-forms app?  Obviously not the
> entire application as you said that is a time-bomb and from the little
> I understand I agree.  So do you suggest the boundaries to be that of
> the form itself?  Or something smaller than that even?
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>
> On Jun 24, 9:32 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > mmmm... I don't think that work at "property" level is a good idea, open
> and
> > close the session for each lazy property access is very closer to an
> > anti-pattern called : session-per-call.
> > In general is better to have the session open in a more high level.
> > Btw if you think that what you need go ahead.
> >
> > 2009/6/24 joshlrogers <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I can't seem to understand how to use uNHAddins in my application so I
> > > am exploring possibly using PostSharp.  Tell me if I am thinking about
> > > this correctly.  If I intercept the lazy loaded properties of my
> > > object I can open the session for lazy loading calls, correct?  Will
> > > this interfere with Castle at all?  Is it possible to have two proxies
> > > operating on a single property/method and if so how is the order
> > > determined?
> >
> > > It seems with PostSharp that I can handle the entry and exit of the
> > > property so after the lazy load I can close the session again.  This
> > > would be optimal, yes?
> >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Josh
> >
> > > On Jun 23, 9:42 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > 2009/6/23 joshlrogers <[email protected]>
> >
> > > > > 1.  If I go to using IoC for my session management I still do not
> see
> > > > > how that takes care of possible orphaned sessions or prematurely
> > > > > closed sessions.
> >
> > > > Orphaned ?
> > > > CpBT do it trough SessionWrapper.
> >
> > > > > 2.  If I use one very long session through the life of the program
> and
> > > > > just call commits on that session I am worried about the caching
> and
> > > > > other possible issues.
> >
> > > > If you use a long session that span the life time of the application
> you
> > > > will have only a time bomb.
> >
> > > > > 3.  I REALLY do not want to make my forms cognizant of the session
> > > > > handling however I do not know how I can get around this since for
> > > > > lazy loading I have to leave a session open which could possibly
> > > > > result in orphaned sessions.  Yet, I do not see any other way to
> close
> > > > > those sessions without the form giving some kind of notification to
> > > > > the DAL.
> >
> > > > Model in Gustavo's example (in uNhAddIns examples).
> >
> > > > > 4.  Even if I did fully grok IoC and CpBT, which I don't and that
> is
> > > > > probably the problem, I don't see how that handles leaving sessions
> > > > > open to allow for lazy loading unless there is some way to
> intercept
> > > > > the lazy loading call so that you can open the session get the
> > > > > information that needs to be loaded then close the session again.
> > > > > However, I have no idea if that is possible or how it would be
> > > > > implemented.
> >
> > > > AOP
> >
> > > > > I apologize for being so dense when it comes to this.  Handling
> these
> > > > > sessions has forced me to think more abstractly than I normally do,
> > > > > which is a good thing, thus why I want to take this experience and
> > > > > learn from it.
> >
> > > > Perhaps we should implements a "easier" to manual manage CpBT, in
> > > uNhAddIns,
> > > > without AOP but, so far, we don't have any request in this direction.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > Fabio Maulo
> >
> > --
> > Fabio Maulo
> >
>


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