AOP logging is *NOT* for granular logging

2009/7/10 Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>

> The logging is for NH developer or for advance user who want help NH
> providing a patch.AOP logging is for granular logging as we need in NH and
> write a method only to have a before-log and after-log is something not
> useful for us.
> The cross-cutting concern is about a multi-layer application but NH is a
> layer and log it is out of your scope.
> Are you activating the log of log4net ? or the log of UnitTest FX ? or the
> log of the IoC ?
>
> At most what you can ask us is
> http://nhjira.koah.net/browse/NH-1554
>
> <http://nhjira.koah.net/browse/NH-1554>For sure you can't ask us to log
> what you want because we will log what we need.
>
>
> 2009/7/10 Billy Stack <[email protected]>
>
>> Usually the consumer is a developer trying to integrate NHibernate into
>> codebase or a developer debugging an issue...
>>
>> However, I still have the same question: "Is there a valid argument to
>> simplify logging in NHibernate, thereby enabling an AOP framework to cater
>> for logging requirements?"
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> For who is the log ?
>>> Who is the consumer of a log entry ?
>>>
>>> 2009/7/10 Billy Stack <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Agreed but having logging code mixed with business logic surely cannot
>>>> be ideal.
>>>>
>>>> In relation to logging in the middle of a method, is it not a code smell
>>>> anyway? Could that method be "broken down" into smaller methods thereby
>>>> giving an architecture that would enable you to log exactly what you want?
>>>>
>>>> Also, is there a valid argument the simplify logging in NHibernate,
>>>> thereby enabling an AOP framework to cater for logging requirements.
>>>>    - Disadvantage: Less logging
>>>>    - Advantage: Cleaner code base + the likes of NHibernate profiler etc
>>>> are now available to help with issues
>>>>   On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Tuna Toksoz <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> NHibernate doesn't only log exceptional cases, you can't do aop in the
>>>>> middle of a method.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tuna Toksöz
>>>>> Eternal sunshine of the open source mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://devlicio.us/blogs/tuna_toksoz
>>>>> http://tunatoksoz.com
>>>>> http://twitter.com/tehlike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:09 PM, bstack <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> using e.g. the likes of PostSharp? I know there are discussions going
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Fabio Maulo
>>>   >>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> Fabio Maulo
>



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