I posted a message on the old forums (which still seem quite active)
but
got no reply there so I'll try here.

We've been digging into the very rich possibilties that NHibernate
provides
for efficient querying and eager fetching and we *lurve* it BUT we
seem to
have hit a bit of a snag:

When a parent object's child collection is empty, NHibernate neglects
to properly init the collection. As far as we can see from looking at
the
source, this is by design. If there's no data for the collection,
NHibernate
doesn't get around to initing the collection. We have been trying to
change
this behaviour because we don't want lazy init exceptions thrown when
we
access an empty collection. However we can't seem to get our head
around
this problem and we can't seem to find a way to fix this.

We do have a ridiculous workaround, in which we loop over our objects
(and their
children's children's children, it's a deep query) and "touch" every
child collection
before closing the session. In the case of many empty child
collections this
will degenerate into the SELECT N + 1 anti-pattern, which we wanted to
avoid
in the first place by using multi-queries for our deep object queries.

I have found an old but relevant bug in JIRA that seems to getting
pushed forward with
every release.

http://nhjira.koah.net/browse/NH-1211

We get the impression that there's a (better) trick for working around
this problem
because nobody seems to be overly concerned about fixing this.

Can anbody please give us some more info on this ?

Thank you so much !


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