Fabio,

thanks for the links. I'll see if that sets me on the right path.

Looks like i ought to add your blog to my reader on general
principles.

arne

On Aug 27, 5:33 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> These posts is not exactly what your are looking for but you can use some
> concepts exposed 
> therehttp://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2008/10/less-than-few-is-gof.html<http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2008/10/less-than-few-is-gof.html>http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2009/07/duck-typing-with-nhibernate.htmlhttp://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2008/10/entity-name-in-action-entity.html
>
> Look at this old 
> toohttp://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2008/10/less-than-gof-is-hbm.html
>
> as you can see you can have a persistent representation of "something"
> without POCO nor interfaces.
> I'm sure you can persist your artefacts ;)
> <http://fabiomaulo.blogspot.com/2008/10/entity-name-in-action-entity.html>
> 2009/8/27 Arne Claassen <[email protected]>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Fabio,
>
> > I will have to profess my ignorance on the topics you mentioned. I'm
> > really only familiar with the poco entities, and that through Fluent
> > NHibernate. If you have any links that discuss the interface
> > implementation approach or EntityMode.Map with dynamic entities, i'd
> > greatly appreciate it. Searches for either have not yielded anything
> > useful. In particular "interface" and "entity" was something I'd
> > previously searched a lot about and generally found "don't use
> > interfaces, use poco classes" or just articles about "fluent interface
> > for nhibernate". Maybe my google foo just sucks, so a proper lmgtfy
> > link would be just as appreciated :)
>
> > arne
>
> > On Aug 26, 2:57 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Map to interface without implementation ?Usage of EntityMode.Map and work
> > > with dynamic entities ?
>
> > > 2009/8/26 Arne Claassen <[email protected]>
>
> > > > I have a need to store arbitrary documents (Xml) which have some
> > > > required fields that i want to query on. I may later evaluate one of
> > > > the many document oriented DBs, but for now, my familiarity with
> > > > RDBMS' and desire to use Linq have steered me to use NHibernate. Now
> > > > what i've come up with just feels wrong, so i wanted to see if there
> > > > are some other hooks in NHibernate that can be used or other ways for
> > > > defining the Entities that make this more digestible, or whether my
> > > > goals here are what makes this whole thing icky and I need to just
> > > > live with that if i really want to store XML blobs.
>
> > > > My entities implement this interface (where XDoc is a fluent interface
> > > > wrapper around XmlDocument):
>
> > > > public interface IXDocEntity {
> > > >  XDoc ToDocument();
> > > >  void UpdateFromDocument(XDoc document);
> > > > }
>
> > > > The entities have a protected member storing the Xml blob
>
> > > >  protected virtual string Xml { get; set; }
>
> > > > plus a number of public properties that may be read/write that expose
> > > > values inside the Xml, plus some meta-data properties. All these are
> > > > accessors for basic entity information and are also required to do
> > > > queries for entities in the DB.
>
> > > > The problem is that information can be set via either a document
> > > > change or Property change. Which means I need to propagate the changes
> > > > between the two. From document to properties is easy, since that
> > > > happens in UpdateFromDocument and that's not under NHibernate control.
> > > > But the properties are under NHibernate control, so i can't just add
> > > > behavior to the setters (right? There is no way for the NHibernate
> > > > generated proxy to call the super setter?). This has lead me to these
> > > > three options for handling the problem:
>
> > > > 1) Make all NHibernate managed properties protected and have the
> > > > public properties be proxies under my control... Seems cleanest, but
> > > > that's a lot of derivable code that whispers "codegen" and i don't
> > > > want to either handcode or codegen that.
> > > > 2) Write an Interceptor, like has been described by Ayende et al, for
> > > > intercepting property setters and run custom code to update the Xml.
> > > > That could be fairly clean and I could use Attributes to mark up the
> > > > properties with XPaths to create only one proxy factory for all entity
> > > > types. But it seems like my entities now have magic behavior and isn't
> > > > having a proxy per entity going to get heavy if that's always used?
> > > > 3) Don't update the Xml unless one of two things happens a) a XDoc
> > > > operation is requested UpdateFrom or To and b) when the entity is
> > > > saved (i.e. set up an event listener). This way we only update Xml
> > > > when we need to know that is has changed for display or persistence
>
> > > > Any other paths or suggestions, other than "OMFG, don't put Xml in a
> > > > textblob!!!" :)
>
> > > > thanks,
> > > > arne
>
> > > --
> > > Fabio Maulo
>
> --
> Fabio Maulo
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