More progress and strange results.

If I use proxy unpacking, as described in Graham's link,
http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/fce0810bee14d5b3%23&usg=AFQjCNHVP4FoiQBoi4-C1JZjXwVld7mG2Q

then it WORKS CORRECTLY! (Thanks Graham!) and will return the expected
Institution object.  But why won't it lazy load if I can get it with
unpacking?

In other words, this breaks:
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string WontLoad =
instrumentList[0].Location.Institution.ToString();
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But this works:
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Location unpackedLocation =
(Location)session.GetSessionImplementation()
    .PersistenceContext.Unproxy(instrumentList[0].Location);

Institution unpackedInstitution =
(Institution)session.GetSessionImplementation()
    .PersistenceContext.Unproxy(unpackedLocation.Institution);

string WillLoad = unpackedInstitution.ToString();
-----------------------


On Mar 16, 10:31 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> If it is null is because there isn't a relation and not because it is a
> proxy.
>
> 2010/3/16 SedulousTurtle <[email protected]>
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> > Fabio, Graham, and John, thank you for your help.  From your posts, I
> > now understand how the proxies work a little better -- I don't usually
> > need to worry about replacing them with the proper objects, I just
> > need to make sure I've accessed all the data I need before the session
> > is closed.
>
> > However, I think there's also a more subtle issue I'm facing.  I get
> > an error with this code:
> > ----------
> > IList<Instrument> instrumentList;
>
> > using (ISession ses = NHibernateHelper.OpenSession())
> > using (ses.BeginTransaction())
> > {
> >     instrumentList = ses.CreateQuery(@"FROM
> > Instrument").List<Instrument>();
> >    string WontLoad =
> > instrumentList[0].Location.Institution.ToString();
>
> >    ses.Transaction.Commit();
> > }
> > ----------
>
> > What Happens: NullException, because I call ToString() on Institution,
> > which is null.
>
> > What I Expect: Location.Institution is initially null -- because its a
> > lazy loaded reference stored in a LocationProxy.  But I would expect
> > Institution to be lazily loaded when I cann ToString() on it -- and
> > yet that's not what I'm observing.
>
> > I've checked the database thoroughly and am very confident that the
> > data is saved properly.
>
> > My main question: Am I using the NHibernate data retrieval API
> > improperly, or is there something else going on behind the scenes
> > (like an error in my XML mapping) that's preventing lazy loading from
> > operating correctly?
>
> > On Mar 15, 6:42 pm, John Davidson <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I have found the best performance is to create a separate object for the
> > > grid and move data from the NHibernate object to the grid object. Instead
> > of
> > > using a grid hierarchy I put a second grid on the page to manage the
> > child
> > > data and only get the child data after the user makes a selection of the
> > > parent. Of course the second grid also has its own data object.
>
> > > Doing it like this there is no issue with proxies or sending too much
> > > unnecessary data to the web page. It keeps the web page leaner and more
> > > responsive.
>
> > > John Davidson
>
> > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Graham Bunce <[email protected]
> > >wrote:
>
> > > > Sorry, too tired to read the full post and work out what's going on
> > > > for you but look at this thread that I raised with similar questions:
>
> > > >http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers/browse_thread/thread/fce0810be.
> > ..
>
> > > > A proxy will always be a proxy unless you force replace it (I think)
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