Gauthier,

It's unlikely that you'll get many responses to a very long email which
makes no references to classes, mappings, or anything NH-related (only SQL),
while asking very open questions.
I recommend that you start with a small proof-of-concept and ask specific
questions when you found roadblocks (and after reading the documentation,
that is)

   Diego


On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:51, Gauthier Segay <[email protected]>wrote:

> I'm bumping this one,
>
> if the description is not clear, is there anything I can do to help
> your understanding of the problem?
>
> On Mar 16, 10:30 am, Gauthier Segay <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I'm working on an application which has no ORM and a rather special data
> model.
> >
> > The model is made of several entities that fits a relational model on
> > the logical side, one entity may be related to another, etc. But the
> > physical implementation is relying on a specific mechanism targeting
> > issue with copying of all the data in a specific use case.
> >
> > The application is managing large sets of data composing a case.  Each
> > case (or "top case") references a number of subcases.
> > The user is allowed to create a new case from an existing one;
> > physically, creating a new case is just adding a row to the case
> > table, this row referencing each set of entities (i.e. the row holds
> > the subcase identifiers), the application starts duplication of
> > a subset of data only if any data is changed in subcase data that is
> > shared among multiple cases.
> >
> > So, what is special, is that the model is not using strong foreign
> > keys to maintain the relations, it's somewhat handled by the
> > application code and what I would call loose coupled relations.
> >
> > The relation is made of the subcase identfier (coming from the case
> > row for a given entity) and an arbitrary identifier.
> >
> > here is a sample schema script (mssql)
> >
> > ----------------------
> > create table cases (
> >        [key] int identity
> >        , shop_case_key int
> >        , product_case_key int
> >        , product_by_shop_case_key int
> >        , name nvarchar(100)
> > );
> >
> > create table shop_cases (
> >        [key] int identity
> >        , subcase_name nvarchar(100)
> > );
> >
> > create table product_cases (
> >        [key] int identity
> >        , subcase_name nvarchar(100)
> > );
> >
> > create table product_by_shop_cases (
> >        [key] int identity
> >        , subcase_name nvarchar(100)
> > );
> >
> > create table shops (
> >        shop_case_key int
> >        , shop_id int
> >        , name nvarchar(100)
> >        , product_space int
> > );
> >
> > create table products (
> >        product_case_key int
> >        , product_id int
> >        , name nvarchar(100)
> >        , price decimal
> > );
> >
> > create table product_by_shop (
> >        product_by_shop_case_key int
> >        , product_id int
> >        , shop_id int
> > );
> >
> > insert into shop_cases (subcase_name) values ('shopcase1');
> > insert into shop_cases (subcase_name) values ('shopcase2');
> >
> > insert into product_cases (subcase_name) values ('productcase1');
> > insert into product_cases (subcase_name) values ('productcase2');
> >
> > insert into product_by_shop_cases (subcase_name) values
> ('productbyshopcase1');
> >
> > insert into cases (shop_case_key, product_case_key,
> > product_by_shop_case_key, name)
> > select 1,1,1,'case 1'
> > union all
> > select 1,2,1,'case 2'
> > union all
> > select 2,1,1,'case 3'
> >
> > insert into shops (shop_case_key, shop_id, name, product_space)
> > values(1, 1, 'shop 1', 100);
> > insert into shops (shop_case_key, shop_id, name, product_space)
> > values(1, 2, 'shop 2', 200);
> > insert into shops (shop_case_key, shop_id, name, product_space)
> > select 2, shop_id, name, product_space*2 from shops
> >
> > insert into products (product_case_key, product_id, name, price)
> > values (1, 1, 'product 1', 1);
> > insert into products (product_case_key, product_id, name, price)
> > values (1, 2, 'product 2', 10);
> > insert into products (product_case_key, product_id, name, price)
> > select 2, product_id, name, price * 3 from products;
> >
> > insert into product_by_shop (product_by_shop_case_key   , product_id,
> > shop_id) values (1, 1, 1);
> > insert into product_by_shop (product_by_shop_case_key   , product_id,
> > shop_id) values (1, 2, 1);
> > insert into product_by_shop (product_by_shop_case_key   , product_id,
> > shop_id) values (1, 1, 2);
> > ----------------------
> >
> > for a given case key and shop id, looking at the product list for a
> > given shop, the SQL whould look like that
> >
> > select
> >        c.*, s.shop_id, p.*
> > from
> >        cases c
> >        inner join shop_cases sc on c.shop_case_key = sc.[key]
> >        inner join product_cases pc on c.product_case_key = pc.[key]
> >        inner join product_by_shop_cases pbsc on
> c.product_by_shop_case_key =
> > pbsc.[key]
> >        inner join product_by_shop pbs on pbs.product_by_shop_case_key
> > = pbsc.[key]
> >        inner join shops s on
> >                sc.[key] = s.shop_case_key
> >                and pbs.shop_id = s.shop_id
> >        inner join products p on
> >                pc.[key] = p.product_case_key
> >                and pbs.product_id = p.product_id
> > where
> >        c.[key] = @caseKey
> >        and s.shop_id = @shopId
> >
> > as you see this is turning pretty complicated with a simple model, the
> > application is quite larger than this.
> >
> > I'm investigating possibilities to fit this in a normal NH model where
> > I could use such things:
> >
> > using(var session = CraftSessionForCaseKey(1) /* some black magic in
> > setting the session or session factory */){
> >        var shop = session.GetByKey<Shop>(1);
> >        var products = shop.Products; // will issue the previous select
> > statement (with product columns)
> >
> > }
> >
> > Assuming I can't change the way we put the model, is there something
> > that you think is remotely feasible, even putting some amount on
> > effort to override some key components involved in the way ISession or
> > ISessionFactory works?
> >
> > I currently haven't come up with lots of ideas on how to overcome this
> > issue (session filter aren't enough to manipulate entity
> > relationships). Things are done this way to allow the end user to
> > create new cases at will and only incurring the performance hit of
> > duplicating data to a subset each time a tweak is made in an entity
> > set which is used across multiple top cases.
> >
> > I've thought about the following:
> >
> > - dynamically crafting views with triggers
> > - storing changes as diff
> >
> > but these seem to be seriously complex to me, NH could be of help with
> > the first one, but for the second it involves a lot of
> > application / model logic.
> >
> > Alternatively, did anyone encountered such a situation? what
> > alternative to such model would you find applicable?
> >
> > Thanks a bunch for your insight.
>
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