Thanks for the reply. See my comments inline

On Apr 29, 8:26 pm, Jason Meckley <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would approach the problem in a completely different manner.
> 1. no long running sessions
> 2. only use 2nd level cache in edge cases as a last resort
> 3. for multi-step operations/commands I would use an intermediate DTO
> to store updates. When the user clicks "save" is when i would alter
> the domain objects. this makes undoing changes much easier. simply
> abandon the DTO.

I'm not sure whether you do understand my question, but I can't relate
any of your reply to my question. I also don't agree with what you're
saying...
* I don't know what "no long running sessions" would solve for my
issue. All these things you're proposing are a "very complex" way to
do Evict/Load on the same session.
* 2nd level cache is for performance reasons. The issue I'm posting
about is also for performance reasons. So, this cache stays
* Why would I do any object dirty management myself, if nHibernate can
do it for me.

>
> if you do continue down this path are all your session calls happening
> within a transaction? Proper use of NH dictates that all operations,
> both read and write, should happen within at transaction. This is
> critical for client POIDs, proper UOW management and 2nd level cache.
>

Again, no answer on my question. Even more, I don't agree with you...
* UoW pattern doesn't say that a read should be in a ACID transaction.
UoW itself is a "business transaction" implementation, which is based
optimistic concurrency ideologies (meaning that you shouldn't keep an
ACID transaction open between the reads and the writes).

What I want is simply a Update() which does what Evict/Load does, but
not with giving me a new instance. That's all I'd want to know. I know
nH keeps the original state in the session (and the second level
cache), so it shouldn't be that difficult I assume.

> On Apr 29, 2:05 pm, tz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi guys,
>
> > I'm working with a long running session which contains all my required
> > data. Further, I use level 2 cache intensively, to cache that
> > information. I let my user edit this data directly using UI controls.
>
> > The user can decide to cancel the modifications, which I though I'd
> > easily solve with performing a ISession.Refresh(..) on the aggregate
> > root of the changed entity.
>
> > However, it turns out that Refresh(...) always goes to the database to
> > refetch the data, even if the data is available in second level cache
> > (tested that the data is there using a second ISession, which returned
> > the data without a database hit).
>
> > Is there a way to refresh entity from data in the second level cache?
>
> > I don't want to use Evict+Load, as I will then get a new instance
> > (Refresh(...) updates the same instance).
>
> > Thanks
>
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