> That is the difference, you are tried only FNH.

        I'm not that stupid that I can't read documentation. I asked a
simple question, if it's impossible for you to come up with a simple answer,
then it seems you're not really sure what the answer is apparently. 

> As I said around 20 times, I'm not interested in comparison between
ConfORM
> and FNH because they are incomparable from my point of view.
> Each comparison is a subjective point of view of the comparer.
> A stone is equal to a horse: both are nothing more than atoms.

        Geezz... wtf is your problem. I just asked a stupid silly question,
are you that incapable to answer a normal question that you can't come up
with a sane answer? Diego answered it nicely.

        I just wanted to know what it was, as I have heard about it, read
about it, but have no idea if:
1) it is pushed / going to be pushed as the new way to map NH stuff
2) it is part of nh3 or not
3) just your hobby project (so I don't have to care about it)

        For the project leader of this project I seriously expect something
more suitable than a dumb remark like "Each comparison is a subjective point
of view of the comparer. A stone is equal to a horse: both are nothing more
than atoms."

> I don't have to sell ConfORM. It fit our needs and we are using it in
> production in 4 projects.
> 
> NHibernate has many ways to map your domain-model to a DB:
> XML,
> NHModeller,
> AjGenesis,
> Castle.ActiveRecord,
> NHMA (Mapping attributes)
> Linq2XSD (http://nhforge.org/blogs/nhibernate/archive/2010/07/30/strongly-
> typed-convention-based-mappings-using-linq-to-xsd-part-2.aspx)
> MyGeneration,
> ddl2hbm,
> CodeSmith,
> 
> some commercial visual designer,
> Fluent NH,
> ConfORM
> 
> all are "simply" options.

        Options are confusing for people. The more you have, the more they
have to read up what they all do and what the benefits are of any of them,
then have to decide which one to take because it could have a high impact on
people if they switch later on. E.g. they go for XML and later on decide to
go for FluentNH -> rewrite mapping files all over. 

        And I know, because I learned this the hard way (we have two
paradigms, both with pro/cons and people thus can choose what route to
take). And I even wrote documentation to HELP people choose, something you
don't have, as there's LOGICALLY no documentation to help people choose
between all those options (of which most are defunct btw). I.o.w.: people
are on their own so go for the stuff which everyone uses: XML or fluent NH,
with the latter winning over rapidly, and logically so. 

        Anyway, sorry I bothered you with asking something NH related. I can
imagine that must have been frustrating for you, all those questions...

                FB

> 
> Welcome to the world of options!
> Welcome to NHibernate 3!!!!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>       > Did you try ConfORM ?
> 
>              No, I read the blogposts/material that was available.
> 
>       > Did you try FNH ?
> 
>              Yes (to get my genned fluent nh code working ;))
> 
>              But I don't see why you answer me with 2 questions. Is it
that
> hard
>       to answer? You wrote conform, it seems you are the one to ask. One
> thing
>       which bugged me with FluentNH was the xml it produces behind the
> scenes,
>       which causes problematic issues when you make a mistake somewhere
and
> it
>       ends up with xml that causes a problem -> where did what go wrong.
So
> I
>       _assume_ conform does what fluentnh does but with (what I can see)
> more
>       verbose code but with the advantage that it bypasses the xml
> pipeline?
> 
>                      FB
> 
> 
>       >
>       >
>       > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
>       >
>       >
>       >       > I'm ConfORM.
>       >       > http://code.google.com/p/codeconform/
>       >
>       >
>       >              I've always wondered: what problem does confORM solve
> that
>       >       fluentNHibernate doesn't?
>       >
>       >                      FB
>       >
>       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
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>       >       > wrote:
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       >       >
>       > http://www.mindscape.co.nz/blog/index.php/2010/08/10/announcing-
> the-
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>       >       >
>       >       >       This look great! downloading right now!
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