> You will probably be better off doing a community poll as to users mapping
> preferences and building LLBGen pro around that poll. Fabio's option will
> probably be conform. I myself like the xml. Others are using FNH. Let
the
> rule of supply and demand drive your investment.
it did, so we first built xml and then fluentNH support, and what
I've learned so far of confORM it's not possible to understand why it's
there, so I don't see value in supporting it as of now.
It's strange really. I thought NH was driven by a team who decided
which features to build in, which _problems_ to solve for users, add tasks
for that to jira, assign devs to these tasks (read: find volunteers to do
these tasks) and group that effort under a version number. However it seems
that everyone is simply doing what they come up with as what looks like
useful themselves. So if 3 people decide individually to build each their
own mapping definition system, they will and it will be seen as good.
For commercial products, I can understand why they do that, but for
people who should work as a team, I find that a little surprising. Case in
point: FluentNH. Why isn't there more effort from within the NH team to make
fluentNH work more seamless with the nh core? That just surprises me, it
doesn't look like an efficient way of working.
FB
>
> -Carlos
>
> Practice makes perfect, but if no one is perfect, why practice?
>
>
>
>
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [nhusers] Re: Friends, did you see this? A NH Designer!!!
> > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 18:51:09 +0200
> >
> > > Same XML please.
> >
> > that's trivial if I define the model like you did in code.
> >
> > > btw Frans, you product is a code generator I can't skip 42 slides
> > > because
> > in
> > > the early slides you are describing the domain relations and
> > > relational mapping...
> >
> > no, not the mapping, just the entities and the relationships. I don't
> > define any mapping in that video by hand, nor the DDL SQL. Mappings +
> > table stuff is created by 1 mouseclick using settings to configure
> > what will I end up with.
> >
> > > would be the same than explain that you have a whole application
> > > running starting from "press F5".
> >
> > you wrote classes to start with, I didn't. The classes contain the
> > info used by confORM, I created a model, which produces classes +
> > mappings + DDL SQL, using very few keystrokes btw.
> >
> > But, like I said, let's not end up in a pissing contest :) Being in a
> > rush to get things done a.s.a.p. is never going to end well, so that's
> > not what people should focus on. It's about maintainability etc., and
> > confORM could be a good choice for that as well, I don't want to have
> > that debate, as it's besides the point. The point is: with all the
> > options, is yet another option from the team around NH really helping,
> > or just confusing users?
> >
> > Also, is it or isn't it the future _preferred_ way of doing NH
> > mappings from the point of view of the NH team? (so others have to
> > adapt to confORM, and if they want support xml as well, but that's
> > really not the way to go)
> >
> > FB
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 1:11 PM, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Now that you saw something more about ConfORM I will happy if you
> > > can
> > > answer
> > > > my annoying question.
> > > > Can you show me the equivalent-mapping/procedure using what ever
> > > you want
> > > ?
> > >
> > >
> > > (it's an old video of the alpha build, I'll soon make a new, more
> > > extensive one with quickmodel and NH. It's for our own framework,
> > but
> > > choosing NH is 2 clicks)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.xs4all.nl/~perseus/LLBLGenPro/Videos/LLBLGenProv3.0_QuickM
> > > odel.ht
> > > ml
> > >
> > <http://www.xs4all.nl/~perseus/LLBLGenPro/Videos/LLBLGenProv3.0_QuickM
> > odel.h
> > > t ml>
> > >
> > > skip to slide 42, press play
> > >
> > > I know, you start with code, I with the model, same thing.
> > >
> > > FB
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Fabio Maulo
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Tom Allard
> > > <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Make everything as simple as possible, but not
> > > simpler."
> > > > -- Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sure.
> > > > For that reason this ConfORM mapping
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > var orm = new ObjectRelationalMapper();
> > > >
> > > > orm.TablePerClass<Animal>();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > orm.TablePerClass<User>();
> > > > orm.TablePerClass<StateProvince>();
> > > > orm.TablePerClassHierarchy<Zoo>();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > orm.ManyToMany<Human, Human>();
> > > > orm.OneToOne<User, Human>();
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > orm.PoidStrategies.Add(new NativePoidPattern()); is equivalent to
> > > > this XML mapping
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <hibernate-mapping
> > > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-
> > > > instance"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema";
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > namespace="ConfOrmExample.Domain"
> > > > assembly="ConfOrmExample"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > xmlns="urn:nhibernate-mapping-2.2">
> > > > <class name="User">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <id name="Id" type="Int64">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <generator class="native" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </id>
> > > > <property name="UserName" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <one-to-one name="Human" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <list name="Permissions">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="user_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <list-index />
> > > > <element type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </list>
> > > > </class>
> > > > <class name="Animal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <id name="Id" type="Int64">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <generator class="native" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </id>
> > > > <property name="BodyWeight" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <set name="Offspring" inverse="true"
> > > cascade="all,delete-
> > > > orphan">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="Mother" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <one-to-many class="Animal" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </set>
> > > > <many-to-one name="Mother" cascade="all" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-one name="Father" cascade="all" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Description" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-one name="Zoo" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="SerialNumber" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </class>
> > > > <class name="StateProvince">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <id name="Id" type="Int64">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <generator class="native" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </id>
> > > > <property name="Name" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="IsoCode" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </class>
> > > > <class name="Zoo">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <id name="Id" type="Int64">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <generator class="native" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </id>
> > > > <discriminator />
> > > > <property name="Name" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Classification" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map name="Animals" inverse="true">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="Zoo" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map-key type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <one-to-many class="Animal" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </map>
> > > > <map name="Mammals" inverse="true">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="Zoo" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map-key type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <one-to-many class="Mammal" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </map>
> > > > <component class="Address" name="Address">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Street" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="City" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="PostalCode" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Country" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-one name="StateProvince" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </component>
> > > > </class>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Mammal" extends="Animal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="animal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Pregnant" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Birthdate" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="DomesticAnimal" extends="Mammal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="mammal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-one name="Owner" cascade="all" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Cat" extends="DomesticAnimal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="domesticanimal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Dog" extends="DomesticAnimal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="domesticanimal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Reptile" extends="Animal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="animal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="BodyTemperature" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Lizard" extends="Reptile">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="reptile_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > > <subclass name="PettingZoo" extends="Zoo" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <joined-subclass name="Human" extends="Mammal">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="mammal_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <component class="Name" name="Name">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="First" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Initial" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Last" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </component>
> > > > <property name="NickName" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <bag name="Friends" cascade="all,delete-orphan">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="human_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-many class="Human" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </bag>
> > > > <bag name="Pets" inverse="true" cascade="all,delete-
> > > orphan">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="Owner" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <one-to-many class="DomesticAnimal" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </bag>
> > > > <map name="Family" cascade="all,delete-orphan">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="human_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map-key type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-many class="Human" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </map>
> > > > <property name="Height" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="BigIntegerValue" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="BigDecimalValue" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="IntValue" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="FloatValue" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <set name="NickNames">
> > > >
> > > > <key column="human_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <element type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </set>
> > > > <map name="Addresses">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <key column="human_key" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <map-key type="String" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <composite-element class="Address">
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Street" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="City" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="PostalCode" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <property name="Country" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > <many-to-one name="StateProvince" />
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > </composite-element>
> > > > </map>
> > > >
> > > > </joined-subclass>
> > > >
> > > > </hibernate-mapping>
> > > >
> > > > Who wrote the XML mapping ?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Fabio Maulo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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