You are right,

I noticed that NH maillist has a culture of quick blaming people of
"bad design", "do you know what unit tests is", "who made you doing
wrong design", etc.

Too bad. This creates very acid environment. Whenever I express my
thoughts and provide my arguments in details, somebody just jumps out
with 1-line accusation and it takes another mail roundrip just to get
an explanation what the opponent meant.

Is it just me being sick of this "culture" of treating opponents as
heretics to be burnt?

Vadim.

On Aug 13, 7:52 pm, Jeffry Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
> Wow, there's a lot of love going on in this thread ;)
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Diego Mijelshon 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:56, Vadim Chekan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> On Aug 12, 7:28 pm, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > Seriously?
>
> >> > Do you know what a unit test is?
>
> >> Of course, it is a silver bullet which magically eliminates bugs. No?
> >> I'm sure you know that no unit test gives any guarantee. It gives you
> >> feeling that the app is in descent shape after changes, but nothing
> >> more.
>
> > No. Unit tests are what you use to avoid introducing new bugs AND asserting
> > correctness (among other things)
> > In my BIG application, I automatically generate a small persistence test
> > for each entity (a modified ghostbuster).
> > If, for example, a field name is wrong, I'll get a failing test.
>
> > There's absolutely NO difference between what XML and FNH can do about
> > this. See my last point in this email too.
>
> >> > Have you ever used a real refactoring tool (like R#)?
>
> >> I state that xml editing is not easy. And your argument that it
> >> requires (or is recommended) to use R# just proves my point.
>
> > If you are a professional developer, you'll use the best available tools.
> > Of course you can install the .NET SDK and work in Notepad if you want, but
> > then don't complain about C# editing being hard.
>
> >> > Do you understand what Configuration.BuildSessionFactory does?
>
> >> Builds session factory? :) What is your question really?
>
> > It compiles the configuration. Just like csc.exe compiles C#.
> > You said "Static check is safer then dynamic error". And that's not the
> > point, because the first test I write for a NH solution is the
> > "ConfigurationIsValid", which is essentially a build-time check.
>
> >   Diego
>
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