+1 Reading comments in this group is becoming very stressing. I guess someone will simply reply "then don't read the list", but I'm interested in NHibernate, and this is the no. 1 place to follow/share discussions about it.
It seems that main committers or contributors or so get offended by people questions in some way and feel that people don't appreciate that they work freely under no obligation except their own passion, which is entirely incorrect, we all appreciate everyone who contributes to this and understand it's a volunteer work. One other side of course is how some people are criticized often for their project decisions. This is basically good, but many of the 1 line comments of type "why are you doing this at all?", "you're doing it wrong", etc... are not helpful at all. You can feel how many users got frustrated and embarrassed because of some of these comments. You see how this very specific thread got so many ugly comments. That even some of the users started to ask everybody to calm down and stop these. And not only in this thread, it's all over the group. -- *Mohamed Meligy* Senior Developer, Microsoft Technologies - Technical Delivery Group Injazat Data Systems P.O. Box: 8230, Abu Dhabi, U.A.E. (*GMT+4*) Direct: +971 2 4045385 Mobile: +971 50 2623624, +971 55 2017 621 Email: [email protected] Weblog: *http://gurustop.net* On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Vadim Chekan <[email protected]>wrote: > You are right, > > I noticed that NH maillist has a culture of quick blaming people of > "bad design", "do you know what unit tests is", "who made you doing > wrong design", etc. > > Too bad. This creates very acid environment. Whenever I express my > thoughts and provide my arguments in details, somebody just jumps out > with 1-line accusation and it takes another mail roundrip just to get > an explanation what the opponent meant. > > Is it just me being sick of this "culture" of treating opponents as > heretics to be burnt? > > Vadim. > > On Aug 13, 7:52 pm, Jeffry Morris <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wow, there's a lot of love going on in this thread ;) > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Diego Mijelshon < > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 14:56, Vadim Chekan <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >> On Aug 12, 7:28 pm, Diego Mijelshon <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > Seriously? > > > > >> > Do you know what a unit test is? > > > > >> Of course, it is a silver bullet which magically eliminates bugs. No? > > >> I'm sure you know that no unit test gives any guarantee. It gives you > > >> feeling that the app is in descent shape after changes, but nothing > > >> more. > > > > > No. Unit tests are what you use to avoid introducing new bugs AND > asserting > > > correctness (among other things) > > > In my BIG application, I automatically generate a small persistence > test > > > for each entity (a modified ghostbuster). > > > If, for example, a field name is wrong, I'll get a failing test. > > > > > There's absolutely NO difference between what XML and FNH can do about > > > this. See my last point in this email too. > > > > >> > Have you ever used a real refactoring tool (like R#)? > > > > >> I state that xml editing is not easy. And your argument that it > > >> requires (or is recommended) to use R# just proves my point. > > > > > If you are a professional developer, you'll use the best available > tools. > > > Of course you can install the .NET SDK and work in Notepad if you want, > but > > > then don't complain about C# editing being hard. > > > > >> > Do you understand what Configuration.BuildSessionFactory does? > > > > >> Builds session factory? :) What is your question really? > > > > > It compiles the configuration. Just like csc.exe compiles C#. > > > You said "Static check is safer then dynamic error". And that's not the > > > point, because the first test I write for a NH solution is the > > > "ConfigurationIsValid", which is essentially a build-time check. > > > > > Diego > > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > > "nhusers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > <nhusers%[email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > > > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "nhusers" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<nhusers%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "nhusers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nhusers?hl=en.
