> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 03:58, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2) it's doing work that's unnecessary, as you're testing work
> which
> can be done by a machine which doesn't make mistakes.
>
> Did you read the part where I say this is autogenerated?
Generated by what exactly?
> > How would FNH help me here?
>
> it at least makes sure names etc. match.
>
> That's what the first test is for.
which runs at runtime, and you catch the errors thus after
compilation. I don't see the 'benefit' of errors which are only catchable
OUTSIDE compilation cycles.
> > ...Except FNH does not have a "validation pipeline". It relies on
NH's XML
> > input.
>
> pipeline == code generation engine. So the same input always
> generates the same XML. This is a good thing because you then just
have to
> focus on the input.
>
> I've said it 100 times in this thred: what's the value in a 1-1
> "generation"???????????
> I don't need a C# -> XML "generator", I can write XML myself.
You can't, actually. You're human, you WILL make mistakes. A format
which is compile time checked and which is used as input for generating XML
is superior, as you already catch the cruft you have to test for at runtime.
XML is human readable, and machine writable. Just because you can
type it in some editor doesn't mean you should.
> > It's just a different syntax and different names for the exact
same concepts
> > I map using XML (only it's incomplete).
> > For the record, I'm *not* talking about automapping, which DOES
add value.
>
> auto-mapping... ah, isn't that the mechanism which is used by
people
> who are so against db-first, but at the same time are doing just
that?
>
> WHAT? 8-O
> Automapping is model-first runtime code generation.
oh? so, when you change some classes, it will... work on your DB?
Oh, you have to trash the db, so how are you going to 'maintain' things in
production then?
Software projects are mostly about maintenance as the majority of
the lifetime of a software project is in maintenance, not in initial dev.
It's only reasonable to assume that the majority of developers working with
NH are doing maintenance, because that's what the majority of developers on
this planet are doing actually.
FB
>
> Diego
>
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