On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:46, Frans Bouma <[email protected]> wrote:

> >       >              2) it's doing work that's unnecessary, as you're
> > testing work
> >       > which
> >       >       can be done by a machine which doesn't make mistakes.
> >       >
> >       > Did you read the part where I say this is autogenerated?
> >              Generated by what exactly?
> >
> > A script.
>
>         which grew on the ScriptTree? Or did you write it yourself? Another
> part of a chain, which can fail or contain bugs.
>

It grew on the ScriptTree. You have no idea how much time I saved by buying
one of those :-D
Also, did you know that script run logs are edible? They taste delicious
with BBQ sauce.


> > Test is not runtime. We seem to have a fundamentally different
> undestanding
> > of what the build process is.
>        Apparently.
>          Luckily I'm just a salesman writing micky mouse apps, eh? ;)
>

LOL... I never said that :-)
...not that there's anything wrong with those apps.......


> > XML is neither less nor more human readable/writable than C#.
>        right. Because it comes with a proper compiler, as C# does?
>

Exactly. In fact, I have three compilers:
- XML well-formedness compiler
- XML Schema validator
- BuildSessionFactory

The first two even run in the background, in addition to being called by the
third. And that one is a mouseclick/keystroke away.


> > Forgive me if I prefer IDEs that assist me with writing text to visual
> tools
> > like the one you sell. I am more productive with the former.
>
>         'you sell' ? Like the one you 'wrote' would have been more
> appropriate. I'm not selling anything, I only designed and wrote it from
> scratch. Like you did too. Oh wait...
>

Point taken, wrote AND sell. Don't read too much into that.

I'll go one step further and say that your product is probably better than
90% of the code generators.
I'm only saying *I* don't use them.


> >       > WHAT? 8-O
> >       > Automapping is model-first runtime code generation.
> >
> >              oh? so, when you change some classes, it will... work on
> your
> > DB?
> >       Oh, you have to trash the db, so how are you going to 'maintain'
> > things in
> >       production then?
> >
> > Change scripts.
>
>         yeah, those written by hand after carefully examining by hand what
> changes you made? Or by relying on diff tools which compare DDL SQL scripts
> however they always fall flat on their face when they have to deal with
> renames, type + renames, field moves, multiple fk + field changes, those?
>

OK, how do you do it?

  Diego

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