Agreed, but it does happen, especially if some kind of scaffolding is used to 
generate CRUD interfaces, or if someone forgets to put validation logic in the 
domain.  I know I've forgotten to put length validation in when I was in a 
rush, and the length check in the db has saved me a few times.  It also allows 
me to be aware that there is a problem; I can be emailed the error or check the 
logs and be proactive about fixing it.  With silent truncation I wouldn't know 
that something is wrong until much later in the process, and by then the 
problem can be difficult to debug or discover.

Just my two cents.  I just think it makes our lives as developers a bit easier.

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
José F. Romaniello
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [nhusers] Nhibernate 3 truncate behaviour

I think it is a bad idea to send a longer string when you already know the 
length of the field...... With or without truncation.
This is a validation rule of your domain. Why going to the database when you 
already know that is going to fail?
2010/9/23 Tyler Burd <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Maybe it's standard across other DB engines, or maybe I'm just missing 
something obvious, but silently truncating strings by default (and thus 
encouraging the practice) seems like a BAD idea to me...

Tyler Burd

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[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of 
Fabio Maulo
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:06 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [nhusers] Nhibernate 3 truncate behaviour

No, it is not a bug istead it is a specific request to make happy MsSqlServer.
If you want the old behavior you have to copy&paste the SqlClientDrive
and disable the actual behavior, the you have to specify your
implementation in the sessio-factory configuration.

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Fabio Maulo


El 23/09/2010, a las 11:10, Maxim Filimonov 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> escribió:

> Dear Everybody,
> I've played with Nhibernate 3 Alpha 2 for a while and recently found a
> bit confusing behaviour at least from standpoint of compatability with
> version 2.1.2.
> A problem occurs when I try to insert(didn't try to update but I
> suppose it can have the same problem) string value to column with
> limited length.
> In 2.1.2 when such insert occurs my db engine(MSSQL SERVER 2008)
> throws an exception "String or binary data would be truncated." which
> gives me ability to rollback transaction at least if business layer
> didn't check length of a field. With the version 3.0 Alpha 2 db engine
> doesn't throw any exception on such insert because value is truncated
> automagically by nhibernate. Generated SQL:
> 2.1.2:
> exec sp_executesql N'INSERT INTO Customers (FirstName) VALUES (@p0);
> select SCOPE_IDENTITY()',N'@p0 nvarchar(16)',@p0=N'MoreThan3Symbols'
> 3.0:
> exec sp_executesql N'INSERT INTO Customers (FirstName) VALUES (@p0);
> select SCOPE_IDENTITY()',N'@p0 nvarchar(3)',@p0=N'Mor'
>
> My mapping:
> <class name="TruncateBug.Customer,TruncateBug" table="Customers">
>        <id name="CustomerId" column="CustomerId">
>            <generator class="native"/>
>        </id>
>        <property name="FirstName" column="FirstName" length="3"/>
>    </class>
> And the code that doesn't produce exception anymore:
> var invalidCustomer = new Customer() { FirstName =
> "MoreThan3Symbols" };
> int id = (int)session.Save(invalidCustomer);
>
> And yes session will contain Customer  object with full length
> FirstName which could lead to a lot of misunderstanding in further
> usage of the Customer object in scope of this session.
>
> Maybe it's not a bug but a feature but then I hope there is a way to
> configure nhiberate to throw exception as previously and to not try to
> create magic for me.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Yours sincerely,
> Maxim Filimonov
>
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