In other words, implementing such a "MaxId"-based generator should be
perfectly doable, but it wouldn't be HiLo of course, and it could only
use a table, not a sequence.

/Oskar


2011/2/2 Jason Dentler <[email protected]>:
> Here's my guess: All the hilo-style generators should use the same
> algorithm. Internally, the SequenceHiLo generator uses a sequence to ensure
> each sessionfactory gets its own next hi value. Therefore, the hi value must
> increment by one.
> Thanks,
> Jason Dentler
> On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Nick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> As I understand it, the HiLo algorithm for ID generation essentially
>> uses this formula:
>>
>>    NextID = (Hi * Lo) + (++Counter)
>>
>> Hi is stored in the database, Lo is configured as part of the entity's
>> mapping, and the Counter is just maintained in memory within the ID
>> generator. Whenever Counter exceeds Lo (as new IDs are assigned to
>> entities), a new Hi value is fetched, and Counter is reset. Also, all
>> applications creating this entity basically have to use the same Lo
>> value to avoid potential ID collisions, given how this formula
>> evaluates.
>>
>> What I don't understand is the advantage this would have over simply
>> storing a maximum ID as the Hi value, and incrementing it by the batch
>> size you expect to use (instead of by 1). You would still need to
>> fetch a new Hi value every time you run out of IDs, but there's no
>> need to coordinate the batch sizes across applications, or across
>> time.
>>
>> For example, if the current Hi value is 1, an application could lock
>> and update that to 11 (batch size = 10), thereby safely ensuring it
>> can safely assign IDs 1-10. Another application could lock and update
>> it from 11 to 101 (batch size = 90), thereby ensuring that it can
>> safely assign IDs 11-100.
>>
>> In either approach, locking of the Hi value in the database before
>> updating it is crucial. But either approach would need to do the same
>> number of database queries to fetch new Hi values (assuming the same
>> batch sizes), and a "Max ID"-style approach has the additional
>> flexibility of allowing the batch size to differ between applications,
>> or over time.
>>
>> What is the advantage of HiLo here? I feel like I must be missing
>> something obvious.
>>
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