We do have a use case where we would need to veto the save, and we
have a use case where we need to change (or add) values to an entity
being saved.  However, in the use case that I am dealing with now, we
need to perform specific logic that notifies other entities that the
value has changed.

On Apr 25, 9:06 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> The logic is for vetoing the save or to change values on the entity begin
> saved ?
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 9:46 AM, j gwood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Here is the use case:
>
> > I have an entity that can get saved by being part of an object graph.
> > When this entity is saved, I need to perform some logic based on
> > whether or not the entity is new (being saved for the first time).
>
> > Using the example from the first post with the entities, Parent,
> > Child, and Grandchild, I would perform the following:
>
> > - Select an existing Parent from the database that contains an
> > existing Child and Grandchild.
> > - Create a new Grandchild object and add it to the
> > Parent.Child.Grandchild property.
> > - Save the Parent entity.
>
> > Because I am saving the Parent entity, I really have no way of knowing
> > if or when the new Grandchild entity will be saved/persisted.  That is
> > why we are subscribing to the NHibernate events - so we can be
> > notified of when an entity is saved/persisted and perform appropriate
> > validation or logic before the save occurs.
>
> > On Apr 22, 2:49 pm, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > perhaps you are looking to wrong events.
> > > Which are exactly your needs ? (try to explain it from the usage point of
> > > view and not what you think is the right behavior of NH).
>
> > > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 3:20 PM, j gwood <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > I ran some additional tests:
>
> > > > 1) If I create and associate new Parent, Child, and Grandchild objects
> > > > and call ISession.Persist(Parent), the PersistEventListener only gets
> > > > fired for the Parent entity.  The SaveOrUpdate events get fired for
> > > > the Child and Grandchild entities.  The PreInsert event gets fired for
> > > > all three entities (Parent, Child, and Grandchild).
>
> > > > 2) Using the "Merge" test in the original post (i.e., selecting an
> > > > existing Parent entity that contains existing Child and Grandchild
> > > > entities; then adding a new/transient Grandchild entity), I called
> > > > ISession.Persist instead of ISession.Merge.  The PersistEventListener
> > > > only gets fired for the Parent entity.  The SaveOrUpdate event gets
> > > > fired for the Child and Grandchild entities.  The PreInsert event gets
> > > > fired for the Grandchild entity.  The PreUpdate event gets fired for
> > > > the Child entity.
>
> > > > On Apr 22, 11:57 am, j gwood <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Our Repository exposes a Save(entity) method, which calls either
> > > > > SaveOrUpdate (for transient entities) or Merge (for persisted
> > > > > entities).  We call Merge to handle detached entities.
>
> > > > > The Persist event listeners only get called from the
> > > > > SessionImpl.Persist or SessionImpl.PersistOnFlush methods.  Should we
> > > > > substitute our SaveOrUpdate or Merge calls with Persist?
>
> > > > > Or, is there any documentation on when and how often the different
> > > > > Event Listeners get called?
>
> > > > > Thanks so much for your help,
>
> > > > > Jean
>
> > > > > On Apr 22, 7:39 am, Fabio Maulo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > The Save/SaveOrUpdate is not so deterministic as you need. Probably
> > > > > > you are looking for Persist.
>
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Fabio Maulo
>
> > > > > > El 21/04/2011, a las 13:50, j gwood <[email protected]>
> > > > escribió:
>
> > > > > > > I have the following hierarchy of entities:
>
> > > > > > > Parent
> > > > > > > Child
> > > > > > > Grandchild
>
> > > > > > > The Parent entity contains a property for the Child entity.  The
> > > > Child
> > > > > > > entity contains a property for the Grandchild entity.  Each
> > > > > > > relationship is a one-to-one relationship that is mapped in
> > > > > > > the .hbm.xml file using one-to-many in order to use the cascade
> > > > > > > option, all-delete-orphan (see NH-1262
> > > >http://216.121.112.228/browse/NH-1262).
>
> > > > > > > I am using both a MergeEventListener and a
> > SaveOrUpdateEventListener
> > > > > > > to get notified when the Grandchild entity is saved so I can
> > perform
> > > > > > > logic in case the Grandchild is saved due to a cascade from
> > Parent or
> > > > > > > Child.  I check the Version property of the Grandchild entity to
> > > > > > > perform certain logic based on whether or not the entity is
> > transient
> > > > > > > or persisted.
>
> > > > > > > In the following scenario, the SaveOrUpdate (or Merge) events are
> > not
> > > > > > > being fired for the Grandchild entity until after the entity has
> > been
> > > > > > > "persisted" or had its Version number changed from 0 to 1:
>
> > > > > > > - Select an existing Parent from the database that contains a
> > Child
> > > > > > > and Grandchild.
> > > > > > > - Create a new/transient Grandchild object and add it to the
> > > > > > > Parent.Child.Grandchild property.
> > > > > > > - Merge (or SaveOrUpdate) the Parent entity.
>
> > > > > > >    using (ISession session = this.OpenSession())
> > > > > > >    {
> > > > > > >        using (ITransaction transaction =
> > session.BeginTransaction())
> > > > > > >        {
> > > > > > >            Parent startingParent =
> > > > > > > session.Get<Parent>(this.ExpectedParentId);
>
> > > > > > >            Grandchild closedGrandchild = new Grandchild
> > {StatusValue
> > > > > > > = "Closed"};
> > > > > > >            startingParent.Child.Grandchild = closedGrandchild;
>
> > > > > > >            Parent actualParent =
> > > > > > > (Parent)session.Merge(startingParent);
>
> > > > > > >            transaction.Commit();
> > > > > > >        }
> > > > > > >    }
>
> > > > > > > When session.Merge or session.SaveOrUpdate are called, the
> > > > > > > MergeEventListener (or SaveOrUpdateEventListener) for the Parent
> > > > > > > entity gets fired, but no other events are fired at this time.
> > > > > > > However, when the SaveOrUpdateEventListener is finally fired for
> > the
> > > > > > > Child and Grandchild entities during transaction.Commit(), the
> > > > > > > Grandchild.Version property is already set to 1 (i.e.,
> > persisted).
> > > > > > > The Version was updated during the Merge of the Parent entity
> > when
> > > > the
> > > > > > > merge/save was cascaded down to the Grandchild entity:
>
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Engine.CascadingAction]:  cascading to merge:
> > > > > > > NHibernate.Test.NHSpecificTest.NHEvents470.Grandchild
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Engine.VersionValue]:  unsaved-value: 0
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Event.Default.AbstractSaveEventListener]:
> > > >  transient
> > > > > > > instance of:
> > NHibernate.Test.NHSpecificTest.NHEvents470.Grandchild
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Event.Default.DefaultMergeEventListener]:
> >  merging
> > > > > > > transient instance
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Event.Default.AbstractSaveEventListener]:
> > > >  generated
> > > > > > > identifier: beb25e35-45cd-4093-b88e-9b166c5ca7f0, using strategy:
> > > > > > > NHibernate.Id.Assigned
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Event.Default.AbstractSaveEventListener]:
> >  saving
>
> > [NHibernate.Test.NHSpecificTest.NHEvents470.Grandchild#beb25e35-45cd-4093-
> > > > > > > b88e-9b166c5ca7f0]
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Engine.VersionValue]:  unsaved-value: 0
> > > > > > > [Class=NHibernate.Engine.Versioning]:  Seeding: 1
>
> > > > > > > The behavior is similar for SaveOrUpdate as the
> > Grandchild.Version
> > > > > > > property gets incremented to 1 before the
> > SaveOrUpdateEventListener
> > > > is
> > > > > > > called.
>
> > > > > > > Is this the expected behavior of NHibernate?  I would've expected
> > the
> > > > > > > MergeEventListener or SaveOrUpdateEventListener to get called
> > when
> > > > > > > each "child" entity is being saved on the cascades at the same
> > time
> > > > as
> > > > > > > the "parent" object is being saved instead of seeing the events
> > fired
> > > > > > > for the "child" entities during transaction.Commit().
>
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