David,

Thanks for your comment.

My code was not meant to discuss that a method should be used to maintain
the relationship.
I know it is necessary and recommended.
I had specific questions about nHibernate which I need help to clear up

Thanks,
Andrew.

On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 12:52 AM, TheCPUWizard <[email protected]>wrote:

> I sent the message below privately since it was not directly related to
> the nHibernate issue…but am now including it as a public response since it
> has been mentioned again on the public thread….****
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TheCPUWizard [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:47 AM
> To: 'Andrewz'
> Cc: 'Gunnar Liljas'
> Subject: RE: [nhusers] questions about sql logging and the Inverse in a
> one to many relationship****
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> Andrew,****
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> As Gunner pointed out, it allows for ambiguous data (which is being kind,
> I would use a harsher term).  Twenty years ago, Scott Meyers made a great
> statement: "Write software that is easy to use correctly, and difficult to
> use incorrectly". A design which requires multiple steps (one of which
> could be accidently left out) fails the second part of this. It would be a
> much better design if the act of performing EITHER of the operations
> automatically performed the other.****
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> This may seem like a trivial case, but over the years, I have consistently
> found that when there is one such design element, there are almost
> invariably others of similar (or worse) nature. Over the lifecycle of the
> product, the net effect can be quite costly.****
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> David****
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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
> Behalf Of *Andrewz
> *Sent:* Friday, December 28, 2012 5:17 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [nhusers] questions about sql logging and the Inverse in a
> one to many relationship****
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> Gunnar, ****
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> I know that I should use a method to maintain the relationship.****
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> That's not the point of my question.****
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> And TheCPUWizard said something else, that it's a bad design which I do
> not understand why he says that.****
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> In my post, I have specific questions regarding specific things I do not
> understand.****
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> On Friday, December 28, 2012 5:14:17 PM UTC+2, Gunnar Liljas wrote:****
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> It's an *inconvenient* design, in that it requires two steps, and
> allows for ambiguous data.
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> One small thing you can to is to create a group.AddUser method, which
> both adds the user and sets its group.
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> The next step would be to not expose group.Users as a collection (map
> it to a backing field instead and just expose the property as an
> IEnumerable<User>), so that its impossible to use Users.Add directly.
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> /G ****
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