So you ride it till it becomes insufferable and easily replicated. Take your 
cell phone. 
One of the bikes I had in Fla was a V4 and if I rode to McBurger for lunch, I 
was stuck there for over an hour till it cooled enough to run half-a%ed. At 
night it would go down to 84 (?) and it ran like the hinges of. That's where I 
got my first 700s. It had only a case of lethargy at 102 in the afternoon.  
Also, I missed less work too.  The poor V4's got a bad rap for heat problems 
and it wasn't the liquid cooling doing it. The carbs nested in between the 
cylinder banks just didn't have a chance. I saw one with a crude Reynolds Wrap 
heat shield around them  so the guy could get home every night. Hey, it worked 
even if it was ugly. I thought about some intakes like the phony ones on a 
V-Max to cool them.  Then it dawned on me that the problem sets in when it 
isn't moving... duh.  

--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Great day for a ride ... and then it died.
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 8:54 PM

Yeah, I used to have that same problem doing pc repair. You have to be able to 
recreate the problem. Besides, I'm way too cheap to take it to a shop, 
dealership or otherwise ;)
I definitely need to re-do the fuel line after looking at it. It's got a bend 
right where I put the fuel filter and that has it under constant pressure. That 
plastic is going to put up with that for ever. If I move it closer to the fuel 
rail btwn the 2nd and 3rd carbs it'll be in an up-right position w/no twisting 
pressures. 


-Kyle

On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Should that turn out to be a correct diagnosis, bear in mind that a slightly 
richer mix is easier to start combustion. I'm sticking with just plain extreme 
heat. Now that causes the fuel in the bowls to boil. I've listened to a 
distinct fizz coming from the carb bowls on an overheated VF700. Once that 
happens, float levels are not consistent and performance goes away. After all 
this, it's still a temporary situation. I only get concerned with stuff that 
happens without an obvious cause. 68 degrees, 3000 RPM, level road, fresh gas, 
good battery,,, a failure then would be huge. 

Consider this; if you took it to a shop (never a Honda dealer, GOD forbid) they 
would have to verify the problem. What would you tell them to do ? at this 
point,if it's running OK, how do they recreate the problem ? Remember, if it 
aint' broke... we cain't fix it.

--- On Fri,
 9/5/08, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Great day for a ride ... and then it died.
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 1:38 AM


I got in touch with my buddy and he suggested the coils might be getting ready 
to go and the heat was just making them worse. He suggested I check them with 
an ohm meter at room temp and then heat them up to about 110F in the oven and 
try again. I'll try that on my next day off. Hopefully I won't get in trouble 
for roasting Ignitor Coil Loaf in the oven. Makes me wonder why choking it made 
it run tho.



-Kyle

On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Kyle Munz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


So, we had a "cold front" come thru last night. Doesn't mean it was cold, it 
just means it only got into the low 90s today and the humidity was lower. 
Anyhow, it seems like everywhere I went today I got stuck in traffic, mostly 
1st and 2nd gear stuff. Even on the freeways, couldn't avoid it. Well, it 
started to sputter and die on me, didn't want to rev, and then cut out 
completely. Fooled around with it on the shoulder of the highway for  a bit and 
it would stumble when i cranked it but not catch. Twist the throttle any at all 
and even the stumbling went away. So I choked it, and it finally stumbled into 
life, but just barely. I could atleast get it to rev up to about 4 grand and if 
I feathered the clutch I could get it rolling without killing it. I did this 
riding along the shoulder of the I-45 parking lot until I got to the next off 
ramp and pulled into a parking lot. I found a shaded spot and hopped off. I 
noticed the clear-plastic
 inline fuel filter I put on it was kinda coming loose so I pulled the seat and 
tank to reseat that, and while I was in the shade I went ahead and hung out for 
a while. It started up after cooling off and reseating that fuel line. It 
didn't run as smooth as usual, but a hell of a lot better than it had been 30 
minutes before. Oh good, my luck's turning around I thought. Not so fast! I 
picked up my helmet from where I had set it next to the bike, and it was full 
of fire ants!!! Man! These are things they didn't teach me about in my BRC. 




So, what do the experts here think? Was I just vapor locked?

-Kyle
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