No I don't, I suppose preparation rules still apply. I switched my VF1100 to a zero maintenance Yuasa (against my better judgment) because of a weird problem with the OEM. I had two batteries that open circuited (internal) without any cause. The battery for one of those is huge and very expensive. I didn't relish the possibility of battery explosion or being stuck somewhere. One failed in my garage and the other on on a test bench under load. Both were Deca made Yuasa. After hearing of several more, I changed my mind. The Zero maintenence battery has shown exceptional long life and held up well. The cost was higher, of course. I could just imagine some sort of arc when the link between the cells left go. Each time the battery in question failed, it was under a high load. Once a load bank and the other starting. The zero that replaced it is smaller and much heavier. At any rate, the failures have been only to one particular battery type. One second it's there, next it's gone. Ohmeter will show no risistance after failure. Deca has no answers. Bottom line, if finances allow, zeros are better batteries, maybe gels are too.
--- On Tue, 10/14/08, wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Charging issue? To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 1:26 AM Thanks Dennis, I appreciate your information and will keep it for conditioning of a new battery. I have heard people talk about Gel batteries. Do you know anything about them and do you have an opinion about them? Wayne 83 CB650SC On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: OK, here goes. One time only for all to see what Honda has to say about all of this. (remember I'm one of those evil stealership people you all love to hate) The charging system is engineered around a certain set of parameters. The regulator/rectifier is set to decrease output when a predetermined battery voltage is reached. In the case of brand X batterys, this may never happen so the charging system will continue to run at high output. Over a long ride it WILL boil out the electrolete. Taken over a long time the whole system may fail due to running at such a high level. The OEM battery is a Japanese made Yuasa with a wing logo on it. This signifies the battery excedes the criteria agreed upon by Honda. A battery without the logo is good but not as. The standard is VERY high for those. The Yuasa batteries made here in the USA by Deca are not as good as the Japanese editions. Still better than any other. Now how this applies to anybody is seen in cases such as yours. The aftermarket battery may never achieve the the voltage level needed. Please do not plague me with the argument that all batteries are alike...BS. The preperation of a battery is crucial to this whole system. A battery must be filled and left to sit for at least a half hour and then charged for 45 minutes at 1/10 it's rated capacity before being put into service. Failure to do this results in a battery with only 80% of it's rated capacity and the inabilty to make the charging system perform at optimum. The battery is an essential component of the charging system and serves to complement the regulator. In short, yours does not. You cannot ever improve upon a battery that has been improperly prepared and put into service. Once the damage is done, it's done. Our facility does not sell any other brands of batteries. Just ain't fair, is it ? You have the responsibilty of your own bike, I have (effectively) the responsibilty of the several thousand that pass through our shop each year. Our reputation for customer satisfaction dictates that we use only the highest quality replacement parts... OEM. --- On Sat, 10/11/08, wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Charging issue? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, October 11, 2008, 12:59 PM I think it is a champion, new this year. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:06 PM, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Since I am roundly criticized about my electrical diagnosis, I'll limit my reply to one question; what brand of battery is that ? --- On Thu, 10/9/08, wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: wayne crull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Charging issue? To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:02 PM Hi all! I am having an issue, occasionally, with my 83 650. Two weeks ago I went on a long ride, 3 hours, with no problems. That was a Saturday, on Monday I went out to ride to work and heard only a grunt from the starter. The battery was low on water. Filled with distilled and plugged in my charger and drove the car to work. After work started right up and has each time (5) I have gotten on it since then. So any ideas what it could be? Thank you for your help and advice in advance. Wayne 83 CB650SC --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nighthawk_lovers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
