All gear drives have some noise / whine to them. They have to have some 
clearance to work. When you roll off the throttle, you change the loading from 
one face of the gear to the other. Yours has worn some and has additional 
clearance, hence additional noise. On a rebuild of the rear gear set, that is 
adjustable. Pulling in the clutch should cause the noise to lessen some as you 
relieve the gear set of the motor drag. Both of my 700's have a whine in third 
gear / decelerating. Cause for alarm? Not really. I have used BG extreme 
pressure concentrate to quiet gear noise with good results. I use it in all my 
shaft drive bikes. 

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Dennis Hammerl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: '84 CB650SC - rear shocks
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 9:58 PM

Can I ask a delicate question ? Are you a large person ? The springs are just 
relaxing back to the size the shock will let them go to. 30K is not a lot for 
the bike but Honda rear suspension is not exemplary. I am a rather light person 
and for the most part my rear suspension is actually a bit hard. As I don't 
make it work very hard, I expect it will last a long time. Your rear suspension 
may be sacked as the Brits say. Progressive makes great replacements, but a bit 
pricey. As long as you aren't causing the rear end to bottom out, I wouldn't 
replace them. In case you haven't noticed, the forks do the same thing when you 
get off. Bike suspension has not changed in it's basic concept for many moons. 
The spring wrapped around the shock absorber is a nice compact unit. ( on a 
race car they call it a "coil over")  The adjuster on the bottom preloads the 
spring
 by changing its captive length. The shock controls the spring's action. Most 
of the shock's control happens to dampen rebound (how the unit returns to 
normal after being compressed) This is usually expressed as a percentage; 50-50 
being the same dampening in either direction, 60-40 would be 40% compression / 
60% rebound. ( I had a drag car that used 90-10 front shocks. The front would 
rise quickly and almost stay there causing weight transfer to the rear.) Your 
shocks may be bad after 30K and have poor control over the springs, hence the 
pop-up when you get off the bike. 
A cool thing to do is to stand next to your bike and grab the handlebars and 
pull up as hard as you can. Then smear some heavy grease on the exposed fork 
tubes. Go for a ride. The grease will be wiped off, up to how much of it's 
travel you used. At rest, the line should be somewhat above the seal that wiped 
it. If it sets right on it, consider that some work is in order. Sacked
 springs. 

--- On Wed, 11/12/08, Gene Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Gene Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] '84 CB650SC - rear shocks
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, November 12, 2008, 2:03 AM



 
 

My '84 CB650SC with 30K miles, (I got it at 22 K - $650!) and having been laid 
down 
perhaps several times by previous owner(s), has the disconcerting habit of 
"raising up" on the rear shocks as I dismount.  That of course causes it to 
lean more as it raises, and it feels like it will tip over.  Of course it 
won't, really, but it feels strange.  I am assuming the rear shock(s) need 
attention, but because of the coil springs, nothing can be observed.  Has 
anyone else had this problem, and if so, what was the cure?  Thoughts, 
Dennis? anyone?
 
Also, there is a "whine" somewhere - transmission? 
final drive? - most pronounced when decelerating. Any ideas here?  Running 
Amzoil 90 in final drive,  Mobil 1 synthetic in engine.
 
I have done the carbs (plugged low speed fuel 
passages) new battery, new front tire, front fork leaking on one side (winter 
repair job).
It is a "late in life (I'm 72) addition, and I love 
to ride it.  I am constantly amazed at the good condition of 25 year old 
parts - especially rubber and plastic - that are still good!  Honda, you 
did one hell of a job in designing and building!  It'll outrun a $18,000 
Hardly 1200+cc and a BMW ($10,000) 1300+cc.  Until I chicken out (make that 
old injuries triumph over testosterone).
 
Gene






     







      
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