Update:

I tried silicon spray along with working it into the boot carb joint
by wiggling, the the pull back and up motion.  No luck at all.

Next I tried a large kettle of boiling water (maybe a gallon max) and
drissle that over the boots (probably took 2 minutes to pour on all
relatively equally) and that got it off using the same pull back and
up motion as before. I probably only applied half to 3/4 the force as
before.

The carbs looked spotless downstreem of the butterfly (i know thats
not the whole story - wish it was).

I dissasemble the carbs from the rack.

Findings: The center and two outside fuel joint sets had orings that
had split circumferentially and 1 of the 2 air joint sets had 1 slit
oring.  Needless to say i'm need to order them (at least get Parker
O'rings as i like to know exactly what i'm buying if it's not OEM
parts).

Well - i guess i should venture into the carb to see what it looks
like, my only hesitation is i'd like to try and get it to run with a
little tampering on my part as possible (to aviod the is it something
i did to it questions if it doesn't run so well).

Any thoughts on how to minimally investigate the interior of the
carbs.  I do have the Honda shop manual - just lacking experience.

Thanks for the help

Paul

On May 17, 5:41 pm, Graham Rogers <[email protected]> wrote:
> I've found it's always a struggle to get a rack of four carbs out  
> from inside the boots - the worst is my CB750F.  I have to use sticks  
> of 1 X 2 and just struggle and wedge and lever.  I've done Suzukis,  
> Kawasakis, Yamahas and Hondas.  Haven't found an easy one yet (in  
> line four that is), Graham
> On May 17, 2009, at 4:22 PM, oldschoolgwin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Thanks for the tips and knowledge.
>
> > I think i am going to procede to take them apart as it has been a few
> > days since fuel was introduced (about 5) and the leaks haven't chanced
> > (thanks for the concept though).    The center connector that the
> > rubber fuell line from the tank also feels "loose" compared to it
> > should b
> > e a bit snug.
>
> > I've dismantled down to the point of pulling the carb rack out - i
> > don't think the rack had been taken out before and the carbs are a
> > bit resistant to pulling out of the boot  that is between the carb and
> > the cylinder  block.  I wiggle the carb rack up/down and after a few
> > minutes go the carbs to loosen up in the boot - but trying to back the
> > carbs out of the boots is tough.
>
> > Are there any tricks for getting the carbs out of the boots?
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > Paul
>
> > On May 16, 10:08 pm, Dennis Hammerl <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> The O rings have shrunk. Before a disassemble session, let them  
> >> sit a couple of days with fuel in them. Depending on the amount of  
> >> ethenol in your fuel, they may swell up again. Should you have to  
> >> replace them, it will be a formidable job. Expect the diaphragms  
> >> to need replacement too. At that point, a rebuilt carb set would  
> >> be more cost effective. 10 years of inactivity is very destructive  
> >> to seals, tires, all rubber parts.  Tahnk
>
> >> --- On Sat, 5/16/09, oldschoolgwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> From: oldschoolgwin <[email protected]>
> >> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] 83 NH 650 - Carb Fuel Connector -  
> >> Oring's?
> >> To: "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!"  
> >> <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 12:42 PM
>
> >> Hi I've just obtained an 83 NH 650 it original but not running
> >> condition - it sat 10 yrs with drained carbs and tank.
>
> >> Fuel is leaking out the tubes that deliver fuel from carb to carb - I
> >> think these parts are called "joint sets" in the exploded veiw at
> >> Bikebandit parts.  To buy the joint sets is 100+ dollors when only  
> >> the
> >> O'rings should need replacing.
>
> >> Question is - are these just standard O'rings on the ends (i haven't
> >> pulled the carbs off yet - need to get a manual first) so i can't see
> >> the seals but would like to get what i need on order.  Has anyone  
> >> been
> >> through this before that could lend some advice?
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Paul- Hide quoted text -
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