*Thanks HRM!  The ignition has never been changed before. Its a '93 Mercury
Tracer. Fortunately, I don't drive it much. I figured he was being honest
but I just wanted to double check. Hey do you think there is a way to cut
the ignition key w/o removing the ignition from the car? I know it may sound
silly but my resources are few and I'm trying to get this done with the
least amount of labor and money. So far he wants to charge me $70 to make
the key if I bring him both door lock and ignition. I think its a whole more
if they have to come out to your house. Like $125-150 or more.[?]*

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:54 AM, *Creative* Residential Designs <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  That depends on what kind of car you have, whether the ignition has been
> changed out before and so forth. I would say that he's being honest though.
> I have a friend who owns a locksmith shop and he's keyed many of my cars.
> They do indeed need both ignition and door locks to create the keys.
> HotrodMamma.
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Angela Kennedy <[email protected]>
> *To:* [email protected]
>   *Sent:* Sunday, June 14, 2009 5:41 AM
> *Subject:* [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for
> more then a few pointers
>
> SPEAKING OF KEYS, does anybody know if you have a car where the key fits
> both the door and ignition and if you remake a key to fit JUST the door, it
> won't fit the ignition and vice versa?? I was told , over the phone, to
> remove my door lock so the locksmith could get the code and remake the key.
> So I was thinking that if I get  door key made, volla!, I'd have the
> igniton. But, when I got there with door lock in hand, the locksmith said it
> it didn't work like that. He'd have to have both the door lock and the
> igniton to create a working key for both. Is this true or is this guy just
> trying to get my money. Can somebody verify cause I've been a bit frustrated
> about this ever since I lost my key to my car.(the only key, which I'm
> positive will turn up right after I spend money I don't have on a
> locksmith) The guy does work at a reputable neighborhood locksmith but you
> never know. I wanna be sure before I fork over this cash.
>
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Mark Hasslinger 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>   In southeast Asia, the local keymakers hold the blank keys in their
>> toes and a file in two hands so as to get a steady and straight cut and make
>> a key in about a minute and a half. No problem.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 6/13/09, Kyle Munz <[email protected]>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Kyle Munz <[email protected]>
>> Subject: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: New to nighthawks and was hoping for more
>> then a few pointers
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 8:02 PM
>>
>>   I'm surprised you were able to find an actual locksmith. There was an
>> old guy in my hometown, made all his keys by hand on a grinding wheel, and
>> would try it in your lock to make sure he was happy with it before he took
>> your money. Its hard to find craftsman like that anymore.
>>
>> -Kyle
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 7:48 PM, The Webby 
>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I was a dummy and lost my keys to my bike - I thought I was going to
>>> have to spring for 200 ignition assembly until a bike mechanic told me
>>> to simply take the ignition switch to a locksmith and have him cut a
>>> key from that - the good thing about that - it matches the tank lock
>>> and the others.
>>> cost me 27$
>>>
>>> On May 11, 9:34 pm, Christopher Anderson 
>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hey Colin,I have the exact same model and I've been through ignition
>>> issues
>>> > already.  On an otherwise bulletproof bike it's a poorly designed part,
>>> so
>>> > I'm wondering that your fusebox might be fine.
>>> > I got mine 2 years ago, in similar condition, and last year the
>>> ignition
>>> > started acting up, cutting out while I was riding or not turning the
>>> > headlight/signals/gauges on.  Plus the key came out with the engine
>>> still
>>> > running.  I was able to replace it with a part from a similar model, I
>>> think
>>> > maybe the '84 or '85.
>>> > I would suggest if you have a multimeter you should unbolt the
>>> headlight,
>>> > pull it out far enough to get access to the ignition contacts, and
>>> check
>>> > that there is continuity to the fusebox for the correct circuits in the
>>> > correct key positions (listed in the electrical schematics of the
>>> manual, or
>>> > I could walk you through it).
>>> > The point is, I think it's worth having a look at before you resolve
>>> the
>>> > tank cap issue.  If your ignition is the electrical problem, then you
>>> might
>>> > be able to replace them both and get a matching set with a single key.
>>> > -Christoph
>>> >
>>> > ps. If the plastic cap over the ignition contacts is still in one
>>> piece, you
>>> > are a lucky man.  Be very careful with it.  If you can trace the wires
>>> out
>>> > of the ignition and test them elsewhere, all the better.
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Cdawgdevine <
>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>
>>> >wrote:
>>>  >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > > i called a bunch of lock smiths no one will pick it, and its not the
>>> > > same key as the ignition at some point and time some one must have
>>> > > replaced the ignition or tank lock, i found a site that has all the
>>> > > parts i could ever need for the bike, and they have locking gas caps,
>>> > > it seems there is no other options and all the fourms i keep reading
>>> > > tell me the best option is to drill it out and replace it
>>> >
>>> > > On May 1, 11:16 am, Tree Doc 
>>> > > <[email protected]<http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > > DRILL OUT THE LOCK?!!! AY CARUMBA!!!
>>> >
>>> > > > Holy Moly, get some advice on that option before taking it. Have a
>>> > > > locksmith pick it or something. I'm not well-versed in tank locks
>>> but
>>> > > > that's the only mechanism that keeps your tank closed. The key for
>>> the
>>> > > > ignition is the same key that opens the tank unless one or the
>>> other
>>> > > > have been replaced somewhere along the line.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> >
>

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